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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"I had a Northern one of those.
All white with the RAB hoops.....it was the warmest coat EVER and great for spotting yourself on the tele.
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I remember them. I wanted one too in the mid 80s but it wouldn't have fitted in with school uniform policy so I wasn't allowed
Ski Jackets! How 80s were they?
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"icon_rolleyes.gif Yeah cos as a Bradford fan I can't face the prospect of Leeds and Saints not playing the Grand Final...
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I would love it if a different team broke up the top two but it won't be Wigan as they have peaked to early. Just like Hull last year and Wakefield before that.'"
Tell me, will Bradford be peaking at all this season? Or have they decided to go with last years game plan of being e for all 27 rounds?
The fact is, you nor I know whether Wigan have peaked early, after all most of your fans have already declared that we've played poor opposition and therefore should have one them all anyway.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Tell me, will Bradford be peaking at all this season? Or have they decided to go with last years game plan of being e for all 27 rounds?
The fact is, you nor I know whether Wigan have peaked early, after all most of your fans have already declared that we've played poor opposition and therefore should have one them all anyway.'"
Look. The Bulls are obviously lulling the rest of SL into a false sense of security. The fact that we haven't had a peak for about 5 years should be evidence of that
Silly boy.
As for Wigan, I guess the hysteria amongst some of your fans is explainable considering the trophy drought in pieland in recent years. 4 wins and you have the best coaches in SL and half a dozen WORLD CLASS players.
I can't wait to see how the season pans out for you guys.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Tell me, will Bradford be peaking at all this season? Or have they decided to go with last years game plan of being e for all 27 rounds?
The fact is, you nor I know whether Wigan have peaked early, after all most of your fans have already declared that we've played poor opposition and therefore should have one them all anyway.'"
You still sound like a Wakefield fan.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Genius post.
Look at his try/try assists ratio.
Look at how many penalties he has conceded in comparison to O'loughlin.
Then blush a little, ignore my post and think twice before you post such rubbish in the future.'"
Look, seriously, the view that just because somebody plays for Wigan meaning they are the best in the business is twenty years out of date and your being so patronising didn't really make you look very good. Made you look rather like a twelve year old.
O'Loughlin is a decent player (my previous comments, slow, lack of creativity etc. would have been comparing him to a world class player) but if he was really any good, he would have some medals to show for it.
I am quite happy with Langley and Menzies, along with all the backrowers we have coming through, ahead of O'Loughlin.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
As for Wigan, I guess the hysteria amongst some of your fans is explainable considering the trophy drought in pieland in recent years. 4 wins and you have the best coaches in SL and half a dozen WORLD CLASS players in every position.
I can't wait to see how the season pans out for you guys.'"
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| Only one way to settle this argument, Friday Fight Night!
Battle of the Curly Fros.
[url=http://mobile.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/resources/images/676074.jpgLangley[/url VS [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/imagelibrary/testicular_cancer_396x266.jpgO Louglin[/url
With special guest [url=http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/22/vainikolo.jpgReferee[/url
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| Its good when arrogant opposition supporters come on here to crow. It unites all us Bulls fans against a common enemy. Much more fun than fighting amongst our selves.
I'm going for a Bulls win now. Not by many. Probably really scrappy and against all the form books. But a win all the same. I just have a "Saints away" feeling...
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Phelps is back for us so thats great news!'"
No, he's not. Not unless you pull one of those "not naming him in the 19, but then someone else drops out and he plays anyway" kind of situations.
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| Quote Look, seriously, the view that just because somebody plays for Wigan meaning they are the best in the business is twenty years out of date'"
Since when have I ever said this? Since when has anyone ever said this?
I think I have now found your motivation in being so bitter.
Quote and your being so patronising didn't really make you look very good. Made you look rather like a twelve year old.'"
How was I patronising?
I pointed out FACTS to highlight the crap you were spouting about Sean O'loughlin (which you have completely ignored btw).
Quote O'Loughlin is a decent player (my previous comments, slow, lack of creativity etc. would have been comparing him to a world class player) '"
Then why didn't you say that is what you were doing? You were making a general statement about O'loughlin as far as I am aware and then you compared him to Langely. Why are you back tracking?
Quote but if he was really any good, he would have some medals to show for it.'"
So the sign of a good player is how many medals he has won? You know nothing about RL. Rickey Bibey has 2 challenge cup medals to his name. Trent Barrett has never won a medal in his life, but is world class.
What a ridiculous point to make.
Quote I am quite happy with Langley and Menzies, along with all the backrowers we have coming through, ahead of O'Loughlin.'"
And I would have O'loughlin over any loose forward in Super League so everyone is a winner then.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"icon_rolleyes.gif Yeah cos as a Bradford fan I can't face the prospect of Leeds and Saints not playing the Grand Final...
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I would love it if a different team broke up the top two but it won't be Wigan as they have peaked to early. Just like Hull last year and Wakefield before that.'"
Well you're in luck! Wigan haven't peaked yet at all. Read MaGuire's comments after the Catalans match. All he talks about is improvement. The side is still a long way off playing how he wants us to play.
Hull didn't peak either. They had an awful run of injuries and never in their opening five games did they convince the Hull public they were a championship running side.
Here's what a Hull FC fan posted on our forum to back this:
Quote We won our first five games last year by grinding them out, we never played all that well. I can't speak for every Hull fan but even after winning 5 on the bounce I wasn't all that confident.
Wigan this year look way better than we did this time last year, as do this years Hull team. Should be a cracker a week on Friday. If we both get the job done against Cas and Bradford it will a top of the table clash.'"
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| Our song for Lockers is the best though.
But no seriously, Cadoo summed it up.
Also, for the poster refering to the semi-finals, we are disapointed that we have lost to many semi-finals, but, it is still a good place to be isn't it?
And no he hasn't won anything, but Ricky Bibey has more in his medal collection than most players, does that make him a better player?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Since when have I ever said this? Since when has anyone ever said this?
I think I have now found your motivation in being so bitter.
How was I patronising?
I pointed out FACTS to highlight the crap you were spouting about Sean O'loughlin (which you have completely ignored btw).
Then why didn't you say that is what you were doing? You were making a general statement about O'loughlin as far as I am aware and then you compared him to Langely. Why are you back tracking?
So the sign of a good player is how many medals he has won? You know nothing about RL. Rickey Bibey has 2 challenge cup medals to his name. Trent Barrett has never won a medal in his life, but is world class.
What a ridiculous point to make.
And I would have O'loughlin over any loose forward in Super League so everyone is a winner then.
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Your first and last points don't balance up very well do they? And you say that players should be judged by stats and then later say that they shouldn't. Make your mind up.
And I haven't even seen a fact from you yet. I think somebody else posted the difference between facts and opinions earlier. You should read it.
Anyway, better players do tend to win more medals - even if there will be some discrepencies - for every Ricky Bibey, I can give you a Peacock or a Cunningham. If O'Loughlin was a top player, he would have gone to a club where he would have stood a chance of winning them. He hasn't done this because he knows he wouldn't have got into those teams.
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| Quote ="Stul"
Anyway, better players do tend to win more medals - even if there will be some discrepencies - for every Ricky Bibey, I can give you a Peacock or a Cunningham. If O'Loughlin was a top player, he would have gone to a club where he would have stood a chance of winning them. He hasn't done this because he knows he wouldn't have got into those teams.'"
So loyalty is not worth anything these days is what you're saying. Lockers would get into any club in SL
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| Honestly, I don't think I've ever come across a bigger bunch of tits before a game. I thought Huddersfield were bad but these jokers from Wigan are generally a set of daft monkeys.
You'd think they were the best team in the country for the past 10 years the way they are going on after getting off to a flyer.
Langley and O'Loughlin, both fantastic players IMO, Both would walk into any club in SL and both would make the England 17 if fit.
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| What is the difference in the comments from some WIgan fans and having the name "Bulls4Champs2010"?
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| I'm not sure what I'd do if I was McNamara if Sheriffe is unavailable. The obvious choice would be to put Crookes on Sykes's wing, but I wouldn't be confident with the high balls there, the other would be to shift Menzies out of the pack, but imo Crookes deserves a chance to get in the squad if Rikki's injured.
Sykes
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| Quote ="gpartin"So loyalty is not worth anything these days is what you're saying. Lockers would get into any club in SL'"
Rarely, unfortunately. Look how Gareth Hock repaid his.
Each to their own about O'Loughlin. As I don't look through Cherry and White tinted glasses, I'm quite happy with my opinion. I think you'll find there's not many outside of Wigan who rate him to the extent that you lot seem to.
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| Quote ="Stul"Rarely, unfortunately. Look how Gareth Hock repaid his.
Each to their own about O'Loughlin. As I don't look through Cherry and White tinted glasses, I'm quite happy with my opinion. I think you'll find there's not many outside of Wigan who rate him to the extent that you lot seem to.'"
Luckily fans don't pick sides. I think you'll find that other players and coaches do rate him and I know who's opinion I value most.
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| Phelps is out for Wigan still. I hope we continually put the high bombs above Goulding.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Phelps is out for Wigan still. I hope we continually put the high bombs above Goulding.'"
If I were playing Wigan I'd target Amos rather than Goulding, make him run before attempting to make a catch and put him under pressure and anything can happen.
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| Quote ="gpartin"If I were playing Wigan I'd target Amos rather than Goulding, make him run before attempting to make a catch and put him under pressure and anything can happen.'"
After watching his kick returns V Warrington i'd rather not tbh, and (no disrespect) when i've seen Goulding he hasn't been the best and hopefully he'll be nervous enough to drop a few high ones.
But I'm not the coach or Matt Orford
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"After watching his kick returns V Warrington i'd rather not tbh, and (no disrespect) when i've seen Goulding he hasn't been the best and hopefully he'll be nervous enough to drop a few high ones.
But I'm not the coach or Matt Orford
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Kicking to him in space is a totally different kettle of fish imo
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| Quote ="gpartin"Kicking to him in space is a totally different kettle of fish imo'"
You're probably right, but I hope (as so many players have when filling in at FB) he has a stinker and borrows a bit of Kallum Watkins' butter for friday. I still think it's going to be a great contest and can't wait for friday!!
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Phelps is out for Wigan still. I hope we continually put the high bombs above Goulding.'"
Yes, i think that the Bradford game may be one game too early for Phelps and Goulding has done nothing wrong to sugest that we need to rush Phelps back in his place.
Goulding is very much a solid if not spectacular player and im fairly confident he can do a job on the wing for Wigan in the short term.
I suspect Orford will be looking at Roberts' positional play on Friday so expect a chip over the top to try and send Kearney through.
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