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| People get ultra sanctimonious about a something and nothing post re: redundancies yet overt, purposeful trolling passes un-mentioned.
All those who 'don't post anymore' be careful what you wish for.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"yet overt, purposeful trolling passes un-mentioned. '"
Probably because most people have hidden said troll's posts. I'd be surprised if any semi-regular could see Gutterfax's posts for example.
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| Ah Gutterfax, the way he makes stuff up and claims it as fact, it's like he's the boards own version of The Daily Mail but without the overt racism
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| Interesting – none of the “big” earners prepared to forgo salary cuts but quite willing to sack and change terms and conditions for the ones left behind.
Saving pennies hoping that they will become pounds – never has worked in the past and never will in the future.
Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year – for some, the rest can go.... on benefits
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| Meanwhile the Cougars have plans for a £5m stadium re-development....
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| Well, yeah we had [i:4zd77ordplans[/i but you have to wonder how they're going to accomplish it. Is the ground still owned by the Co-op btw, or am I way out of date?
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Well, yeah we had [iplans[/i for a superdome...
The best laid plans of mice and men, eh...but seriously, I wish them well [and I mean that but you have to wonder how they're going to accomplish it. Is the ground still owned by the Co-op btw, or am I way out of date?'"
Yes when the Co-op had to sell up to a hedge fund the Wall Street types asked if they could set them up with some hot Cougars - unfortunately this was mistranslated
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| Quote ="Sitting Bull"Interesting – none of the “big” earners prepared to forgo salary cuts but quite willing to sack and change terms and conditions for the ones left behind.
Saving pennies hoping that they will become pounds – never has worked in the past and never will in the future.
Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year – for some, the rest can go.... on benefits'"
When an investor or sponsor looks at the books though they need to be confident it's a) not a load of and b) not a bottomless money pit.
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| Depends upon which section they get the books from - Fiction or Non Fiction
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| Quote ="tigertot"Meanwhile the Cougars have plans for a £5m stadium re-development....'"
We had a mania for stadium plans before they did.
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| Bring back Mike O'Neill, he could do the Steve Long gig as well.
"Ladies & Gentlemen, boys & girls, what time is it? It's stadium mania time. Let's hear the war cry."
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| Yes, along with - "clear the pitch boys and girls, the members of a hedge fund will soon be feeding", oh, it breaks your heart..
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| Quote ="gutterfax"curtain.gif
I'm not!
I questioned ... Mr Whitcut and Mr Moore's reliance on Belinda and Rick for 2014 onwards...'"
Please quantify. What contribution, in £ and % did you forecast from B and R, compared to their forecasts for 2014 onwards?
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Probably because most people have hidden said troll's posts. I'd be surprised if any semi-regular could see Gutterfax's posts for example.'"
The internet version of hiding behind the curtains by peaking at the scary movie through a small crack......
Quote ="roofaldo2"Ah Gutterfax, the way he makes stuff up and claims it as fact, it's like he's the boards own version of The Daily Mail but without the overt racism'"
Nah.....I ing hate Australians
Quote ="martinwildbull"Please quantify. What contribution, in £ and % did you forecast from B and R, compared to their forecasts for 2014 onwards?'"
September 2013 Whitcut and Moore claimed in the T&A that concert profits were one of the three main areas of revenue that would deliver substantial revenues to achieve profitability inside 12months in 2014. I questioned that logic then and I do now!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The internet version of hiding behind the curtains by peaking at the scary movie through a small crack......
Nah.....I loving hate Australians
September 2013 Whitcut and Moore claimed in the T&A that concert profits were one of the three main areas of revenue that would deliver substantial revenues to achieve profitability inside 12months in 2014. I questioned that logic then and I do now!'"
So you question the wisdom of trying to get more money and use out of Odsal? It's an old stadium and he upkeep is one of the biggest weights round the club's neck but the ground is barely used over a year. Maybe 13/14 afternoons over the summer. But the rest of the year, it sits empty. The idea of hosting concerts is not a bad one, especially if they're held at points were the Bulls have a large gap in the calendar with no games as they had this year gone.
But please, show us your questions because all I remember you putting were snide comments about the acts rather than anything actually constructive
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"So you question the wisdom of trying to get more money and use out of Odsal? It's an old stadium and he upkeep is one of the biggest weights round the club's neck but the ground is barely used over a year. Maybe 13/14 afternoons over the summer. But the rest of the year, it sits empty. The idea of hosting concerts is not a bad one, especially if they're held at points were the Bulls have a large gap in the calendar with no games as they had this year gone.
But please, show us your questions because all I remember you putting were snide comments about the acts rather than anything actually constructive'"
I questioned the claim that the 3 main areas of profitability were the shop (been there a while), the Coral Suite (been there a while) and Summer concerts (3 announced for 2013, 1 happened, it lost 6 figures). Are you saying that I was wrong to throw doubt on the viability of such a robust business plan
I also cast doubt on the suitability of a multiple-failed publican as a part owner of the "iconic" club. Are you suggesting I was wrong there too?
No matter if the questions were wrapped up as "snide comments" they were questions and they were/are valid.
I'd still rather be a Bradford Bulls fan than a London Broncos one....all we've done is change seats on the titanic.
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| GF -- you seem to have admitted to snide comments. Honesty is always the best policy.
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| Quote ="Bullnorthern"GF -- you seem to have admitted to snide comments. Honesty is always the best policy.'"
Honesty? Might well be the best policy, but not when it comes to submitting business plans for a 3 year Licence in SL
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I questioned the claim that the 3 main areas of profitability were the shop (been there a while), the Coral Suite (been there a while) and Summer concerts (3 announced for 2013, 1 happened, it lost 6 figures). Are you saying that I was wrong to throw doubt on the viability of such a robust business plan
I also cast doubt on the suitability of a multiple-failed publican as a part owner of the "iconic" club. Are you suggesting I was wrong there too?
No matter if the questions were wrapped up as "snide comments" they were questions and they were/are valid.
I'd still rather be a Bradford Bulls fan than a London Broncos one....all we've done is change seats on the titanic.
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So where can a club make money beyond selling tickets? I know as a London fan, the idea of a club making money is completely alien to you, but some of us haven't had our consistent hemorrhaging of funds underwritten by someone with more money than sense.
A club shop with a good array of stock is a good way for any sporting club to make extra cash. People are willing to buy more than just replica shirts as long as what the club offers is good quality. The Bulls shop hasn't had the best range in recent years, but changing that up could see it turn a profit.
As said before, Odsal is a huge drain on resources at the club. Finding ways for it to pay for it's upkeep has to be a top priority for whoever's in charge of the club. So why shouldn't things like concerts be considered? Or opening up the Coral stand for use other than on matchdays?
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"So where can a club make money beyond selling tickets? I know as a London fan, the idea of a club making money is completely alien to you, but some of us haven't had our consistent hemorrhaging of funds underwritten by someone with more money than sense.
A club shop with a good array of stock is a good way for any sporting club to make extra cash. People are willing to buy more than just replica shirts as long as what the club offers is good quality. The Bulls shop hasn't had the best range in recent years, but changing that up could see it turn a profit.
As said before, Odsal is a huge drain on resources at the club. Finding ways for it to pay for it's upkeep has to be a top priority for whoever's in charge of the club. So why shouldn't things like concerts be considered? Or opening up the Coral stand for use other than on matchdays?'"
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"So you question the wisdom of trying to get more money and use out of Odsal? It's an old stadium and he upkeep is one of the biggest weights round the club's neck but the ground is barely used over a year. Maybe 13/14 afternoons over the summer. But the rest of the year, it sits empty. The idea of hosting concerts is not a bad one, especially if they're held at points were the Bulls have a large gap in the calendar with no games as they had this year gone.
But please, show us your questions because all I remember you putting were snide comments about the acts rather than anything actually constructive'"
Roofy, if people have decided to ignore a troll it's probably best not to quote the said troll as it defeats the object. Just saying!
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| It's obvious from today's T&A article that the support staff for FC has been dramatically hit by the budget cuts. When they've served their notice (mid January) FC admits it will be a problem to cope without them. I would not have thought these are the type of jobs which could be covered by volunteers. I haven't seen any reports regarding which posts have gone- I may have missed it. Does anyone know?
In the article FC discloses there have been approaches for players and he cannot sign anyone (including Evans) until people leave. Monday's RL Express suggested London have their eyes on Bulls players specifically mentioning Sammut and also that some new players were already signed--by the Broncos not the Bulls
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No, that doesn't answer the question. Not that I expected you to provide one.
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