Yawn, ZZZzzzzzz

Laughable and ironic that Pestegg is basically calling out idle speculation

Is anyone still paying attention to the rubbish they are posting?.

LAs are only responsible for registering 'small' lotteries, the rules under which they are allowed to operate (contained in The Gambling Act 2005) are enforced by the Gambling Commission. Government Agencies are not renowned for being pragmatic.....

No. Just let him waste his time so we can laugh at him. Has he stopped posting again - until the next time he posts.

So how is a small lottery defined? Where does the Big One sit?

I'm ignorant, so can you point out what this error is, please?
Also, what is the smoking gun you are forever eluding to?
Your posts seem to be much a do about nothing, rather than a tempest.

A 'small' lottery is one that has less than £20k of tickets for sale and which has annual proceeds of no more than £250k and needs only to be registered with the LA. For 'large' lotteries a Gambling Commission licence is required. From the limited information that has come out it would appear that the Big One is a small lottery.

So in that case it will be handled by the LA?

No the LA's role is merely to register small lotteries - the Gambling Commission assign this role to them. All gambling is overseen and regulated by the GA following the rules contained within the Gambling Act. Government Agencies will almost always prosecute if you break the rules for a number of reasons including not being seen to be favouring an organisation, the agency, departments and individuals within it will have targets for prosecutions and to raise money for the government. If and when it goes to court the judge may apply discretion to any punishment imposed but it's a fairly serious offence to operate an unlicenced gambling operation (including a lottery) with a max punishment of 51 weeks imprisonment and a fine.

But who would be punished if a case such as ours where to end up before the judge?

The Organisation
The Head Honcho
His Manager in Charge

?

I'd guess whoever is named as the 'promotor' or failing anyone being named the head honcho. Worth noting that both promoting and facilitating a non registered lottery carry the same maximum punishment (51 weeks jail) so potentially multiple offences. Any money collected during the period may possibly be viewed as criminal gains and need to be repaid.

For the sake of a 20 quid admin fee it would seem heavy handed to impose big penalties for this, when the club have been running the lottery for years anyway. Unless of course a license was applied for and rejected.

And there's the rub. Unfortunately someone through laziness or incompetence is likely going to suffer the consequences. Crimes against the 'exchequer' have always attracted more severe punishments than you might expect......

According to my Big 1 membership card it's Robbie Hunter Paul. but whether he is now??

I'm new here as an account holder but have been reading for a good while.

What has been taking place from the person posting as Nestegg is truly poor form. The person is known to most people closely involved with the club at the top table but not widely known by Bulls Supporters or generally.

The person isn't given any credibility by anyone who knows them because too many times in the past this kind of behaviour has been demonstrated and everytime no evidence has been provided for the many various accusations and claims made.

The person attended fan forums recently of the bulls but didn't utter a word or offer a question.

He called players fathers who had contacted him on this forum looking for help and answers, believing initially to be someone who knows something. They were badly let down and very angry to discover there is no substance or credibility to this person.

The person when referring to "meeting council" and things of that nature is correct, but they are nothing more than a serial pest contacting their local council representative, staff, or MP to sprout the same type of conspiracy theories that they sprout on here.

They make claims they know people and are working with people who do have a high profile or respected name, however these claims are generally baseless and when given scrutiny generally reveal that this Nestegg has called and left a message or written an email once to the said high profile person.

They will then go to another high profile person and say " XYZ is involved and I am doing work for them, I have a consortium of legal advisors and experts and I am heavily involved in the new take over of the Bulls" ...for example.

It isn't true.

Like most Bulls fans they have good reason to be sceptical and to ask for answers of the previous and current regime. The Nestegger has been contacting various well respected rugby league journalists for a number of months with the same rantings and has been asked for provide some semblance of evidence or proof, but fails to deliver every time when called out.

It is all very familiar to their rantings on here.

During the Green era and administration and in the first year of Andrew Chalmers arrival at the club, a person and some friends approached Chalmers and the Bulls offering legal expertise and assistance in the RFL and player TUPE claim that was a feature of the terrible year that was 2017. Incredibly Chalmers fell into the story and allowed them to act for a very short time for the Bulls on the matter. this didn't last long.

They also looked into the Frozen lottery account as well but were unable to achieve any headway with the administrator Mr Pettit and that "help" faded away also.

It did give the people involved a little bit of knowledge and insight which few people have of the club and goings on. I make no comment on why that would be relevent here other than to say it doesn't take much to pretend you know everything.

The same person attended a local amatuer rugby club on the morning of the NRL Grand Final and was pretending to be involved with Sport England as an investigator of some description and making some noises about Odsal and Nigel Wood and sport england investigation that isn't actually taking place. That person has no involvement at all with Sport England.

I'm sure none of this will come as a surprise to most readers here but thought I would make the point clearly

Thanks for clearing that up Stuart.

He said he was acting on behalf of sport england about monies not paid by the RFL (which sport england allocated to the RFL) to amateur clubs upon signing for clubs in different tiers of the game.

He then later went on to talk about the pension scandal etc and that sport england had a vested interest in odsal (which I could not belive would be true). He never once mentined Nigel Wood though as I was speaking to him myself at length, to be honest there was no one atthe club other than me who would have spoken about the Bradford Bulls to someone of that ilk.

Once I saw the name Charles I did actually think this person was him. He was a very articulate man and can b read as that in the posts

wouldnt be a susprise in the slightest

I'm definately not Stuart Duffy. Any person who has been an integral part of the Bulls management through the past years of diabolical standards and waste should move out on principle and not be a part of any new management at Tong or wherever we play.

Totally agree

This thread is great. When do we get the bottle that says "Drink me" and the cake that says "Eat me"?

I have to say, I have heard some bulls hit stories in my time and listened to lying conniving fools. It was my job to listen them for nigh on 30 years. EVERY time I read the Nestegg bulls hit, I just laugh to myself and think 'why would anyone believe this fantasist?'. Amazingly it seems some have and some do believe it.
Whoever writes this rubbish is not articulate, is not intelligent legally, financially or otherwise and is definitely not someone with inside knowledge. Whoever it is, is just a bulls hitting fantasist. Please stop listening to whoever it is and ignore his/her rubbish.

Ok but I'm not sure many will believe you




Nearly everything you mention on this post is available within this thread. For someone attacking Nestegg, you are showing a lot of the same characteristics. Queue response by Nestegg attacking ArastuJah and agreeing with me (but I won't see it as I've blocked Eggface)

Was thinking the same about the availability of information told in the post