Great to get the first win even though it was twitch bum time occasionally. The experienced lads will have made a big difference.

Shame Moore probably won't be around for the whole season, shame.

There has always been this element unfortunately and every club has them and certainly not just us.

At one time they would have been, 'shut up', by fellow fans but few would dare to intervene these days or it may be more than just a mouthful you'd get back.....and, a to make it worse, you'd probably be the one ejected by the stewards for 'causing the bother'.

I have successfully told individuals to calm it down in the past without being filled in. It's worked 100% of the time. Not sure how you do that with a larger group. Refer it to the stewards I reckon.

The stewards are generally useless to be fair. They don't want to get involved.

The only offensive chant I heard yesterday was the -12, who gives a f**k.

Unless I'm deaf. Which is possible.

That one about Posh and Beckham and Leon Pryce is pretty naff. Recycled from last year. Come on people you can do better than that!

Could be much worse though. At least we don't sing about getting your father's gun, town full of ***** etc.

Missed that one, how does it go

I thought that one was quite funny...

Those that were chanting at ball boy should be ashamed of themselves! Bang out of order. Not clever and certainly not hard! How would you feel/react if that was your kid being bullied by a group of adults! That is not what rugby and banter is about.

To be fair the lads that get off on chanting are early 20s kids themselves.
They certainly aren't capable of filling anyone in..

I personally don't find it offensive.
If you can't vent a bit and eff and blind at an RL game where can you?

I trust you can see that aiming offensive comments at a young ball boy IS OFFENSIVE!

I miss this one. "Heyyyyyy Ronnie Rhino, with a pocket of sweets and a cheeky smile, Ronnie is a f*king pedophile"

Full match video here https://youtu.be/eqiUrYi1g3k

Full match video here https://youtu.be/eqiUrYi1g3k

Having now watched the match, it does show the 1st half drop goal goes over at normal and slow speed, but the bonus was we scored a converted try which probably wouldn't have happened if it was given.
The Bulls still look out of condition and flagged in the 2nd half hence the overall poor tempo of their game.
Leon needs to look at some videos of Beaver on how to pace yourself, though Beaver was and probably is still is a lot fitter than Leon will ever be!
Its going to be a long season of improvement and Team changes but we will still need that rub of the green (probably a whole meadowful) just keep out of relegation when the deficit is clawed back

My grandma loved that one God bless her soul

I doubt those idiots could, you could hear them chanting you F B on the video but you don't know who to, though I did think perhaps Gledhill had walked past!

Managed to watch the game on the tube of you in the early hours this morning!! From it I took:

Scott Moore is still a class player. Defence was spot on and he controlled the ruck well and his dummy half runs were good too.

Thomas was brilliant and set the tone with his break in the first few mins of the game.

Oakes and Ryan have an awesome partnership developing which needs to continue. Ryan is unbelievable in attack but his defensive options are spot on too!

Pryce got a little more involved but still needs to control the game more alongside Keyes.

Bentley. Wow. His work ethic is unreal. Puts himself about in defence and his attack is good. Good to see him involved in a sweeping move where he gets the ball runs left but passes right to Thomas who goes behind him. It set up Ryan's first try anyway!

Oledzki has some engine! Important we keep him I think.

Finally it was once again great to see the lads get stuck in when Swinton wanted to fight. Roche was especially protecting the young lads which was nice to see.

All in all a good result. Still need to work on fitness (always going to be an issue with having no pre-season) and line speed needs sorting (will come with fitness). Roll on Toulouse.

What rubbish. "Kids in their early twenties, which planet are you on. I was married at 21 with a mortgage, by then they ought to be showing some maturity. Call me old fashioned because I am an old git, but Effing and blinding where there are children and women around you is NOT acceptable in my book. Every club has its share of idiots and we clearly have ours. Don't try to condone them

Agree with all of that. I thought Leon got more involved Sunday. He won't be taking the line on and making breaks, but he certainly talked a lot on the field (don't under estimate the importance of having this in a team) and his passing was spot on. Thought Keyes was very good too. Oakes just keeps getting better and better. I think it was Ethan's second try where he picked up a poor pass from his ankles brilliantly.

I thought the rest of the crowd policed it the first time pretty well. There was a sharp intake of breath, muttering & looks from the 980 people in the stand towards the 20 or so who were singing. They stopped pretty sharpish.

The second time they sang it, the ballboys were away down in the corner and a Swinton prop was walking past, the one that kept spitting at the hoardings. I assumed it was aimed at him.

I don't think it was sung a third time.

Oscar Thomas needs a song.
And poor Ross Oakes, is he not one of our own as well??

Oh talking is massive and I am sure he helps out positional wise with the younger lads too. No matter what level of rugby you play at the talk during a game is huge. To be fair to him he will be solid and his experience will prove vital. It's just really frustrating when fans think he can still tear teams apart and sprint for the line haha!

The thing I like about Keyes is he can read a game well, is only 21 and today in the paper he said he was not happy with his performance as he knows he can do better. Much more refreshing to hear something like that after a win than the usual stuff.

Aye Oakes is a very good player. The partnership he has with Ryan needs to continue and that left edge of Bentley, Oakes and Ryan need to be playing together all the time now. Oakes has got a good pair of hands on him, the example you mentioned and also Ryan's 1st try where Oakes catch and pass was class!

My point being tell them to shut up then, they are hardly hardened ex RL players they are a group of halfwits in their early 20's.
Someone mentioned they would kick off I very much doubt it, I presume its the same group that were bullying the admin of the Banter page?

Its the same old sticks and stones thing, the club are hardly likely to Kick them out so its down to whoever is offended to tell them to shut the f$ck up, although this would show double standards...

Chanting at the players, coaches, referee, staff etc. is one thing. As much as it shouldn't really be condoned, it's part and parcel to an extent and they know what they're getting themselves in for. Chanting at a young kid volunteering as a ball boy, shouting "Your bed's too small for you" and other fat jokes? Well out of order. He's a kid. If he'd have turned round and rubbed his belly, I'd feel less sorry as he can obviously take it. Still not right, but not as bad. Instead the poor kid looked really uncomfortable. It was bullying, pure and simple. But this lot don't care about that as long as they can show off in front of their pals.

I personally wouldn't dare say anything as there's a fair group of them who've usually had a bit to drink and I wouldn't want to end up with a few of them sticking up for each other. I could easily take most of them one-on-one, but I don't go looking for fights and certainly not at rugby games. But if one started on you, the other halfwits around them would back them up. And sadly, I have no faith in stewards at all having witnessed the likes of Hull stewards stand right next to chav corner while they chant racist abuse about Bradford and do absolutely nothing about it.




I'm not sure they can do better. Almost every chant they do is recycled from somewhere else and isn't original in the slightest. Or it's just really really poor. Not saying I could do better, but there isn't really a creative bone in their collective bodies.

Wasn't at the Swinton game but if there were chants like that directed at the ballboy that is bang out of order.

In terms of chants recycled. Pretty much 99% of all chants anywhere are recycled from somewhere. And I'd much hear the Ethan Ryan chants, the James Clare chant (of last year), the Toovey's army chants and pretty much all the other player chants than the monotone boring ones of "Northern, Northern" and "Come on you Bulls" over and over again. As much as I don't condone the bullying at times and the swearing is wrong in front of kids those guys do bring atmosphere and try to create an environment for the lads playing.

Bullying is wrong - end of!

If I'd have picked up on a group of bulls fans slating a young ball boy I would have told them to give over; I don't care how many they are, its wrong.

They don't take well to people pointing out their mistakes either.

I have repeatedly highlighted their mistakes on Twitter (the most recent referring to Lee Smith as a utility back-rower) and they've now decided to block me. Because apparently blocking one of your best customers for the last 30 years from seeing club updates is a good business strategy. I use Twitter more than any other medium for keeping up to date, I now can't do that because the person in charge of the website and social media doesn't know what they're doing properly and I had the audacity to point out their errors.

I e-mailed the club to request that common sense prevails and I am unblocked, but of course there's been absolutely no response to me. I tried to phone a few times only to get absolutely no answer. I got the same when I was trying to call or e-mail about season tickets.

The customer service at the moment for anything other than walking into the shop has been atrocious. It's really putting me off having anything to do with them, including bothering to buy tickets or merchandise. Something I'm not going to be doing now until the service improves.