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| Quote ="Mystic Leper"WHy does everyone seem happy with Sykes being our starting standoff, IMO its a bad step he has been woeful this year and although granted he performed slightly better in the middle of the park having him as anything more than a backup for other positions is a yet another step backwards'"
I'm not by any means happy with it, but if keeping Sykes there could mean we get a new quality 7 I could live with it. I agree though, Sykes should be a back-up player, but it's unlikely we'll get a new 3,6 & 7.
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| Quote The Bulls have only the slimmest of chances of reaching the play-offs this season, but have continued their rebuilding by signing the Cronulla full-back, Brett Kearney, and are expected to add the Fijian World Cup player, Daryl Millard, to their squad for 2010.'"
I think it's just about confirmed that we've got Kearney please announce Millard soon though.
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| Quote ="Mystic Leper"WHy does everyone seem happy with Sykes being our starting standoff, IMO its a bad step he has been woeful this year and although granted he performed slightly better in the middle of the park having him as anything more than a backup for other positions is a yet another step backwards'"
I can only agree. However it either appears that our exceptional recruitment policy over the past few years has left us with little other option or we have someone else lined up that we don't know about.
Here's hoping that Sykes is merely going to be back up stand off and will be under more pressure for his place in the centres. He's had a very poor season at centre but as you say he's been less exposed at stand off. However he's certainly not creative enough with ball in hand to be a regular No6.
From day 1 this season we've struggled for creativity. Playing Sykes as a playmaker won't address that problem. Having some better finishers like Millard and Kearney may help but we need our halfbacks and hooker to be more creative. We already have a halfback with fewer try assists than any other, having a makeshift stand off too fills me with despair.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I can only agree. However it either appears that our exceptional recruitment policy over the past few years has left us with little other option or we have someone else lined up that we don't know about.
Here's hoping that Sykes is merely going to be back up stand off and will be under more pressure for his place in the centres. He's had a very poor season at centre but as you say he's been less exposed at stand off. However he's certainly not creative enough with ball in hand to be a regular No6.
From day 1 this season we've struggled for creativity. Playing Sykes as a playmaker won't address that problem. Having some better finishers like Millard and Kearney may help but we need our halfbacks and hooker to be more creative. We already have a halfback with fewer try assists than any other, having a makeshift stand off too fills me with despair.'"
Having Kearney, L'Estrange, Millard and a new 7 would add alot of Creativity imo.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Having Kearney, L'Estrange, Millard and a new 7 would add alot of Creativity imo.'"
is deacon leaving for sure?
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| Quote ="XxHONEYxX"is deacon leaving for sure?'"
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| Quote ="XxHONEYxX"is deacon leaving for sure?'"
No, I just meant if we got a new seven, I have no idea of the likelihood of it happening though.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"No, I just meant if we got a new seven, I have no idea of the likelihood of it happening though.'"
Very slight, I suspect
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| Going into next season with Sykes at 6 and Deacon at 7 is just unthinkable.
I'd settle for Sykes at 6 with a new 7. But basically Deacon lost his claim to be first choice 7 months ago imo.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Having Kearney, L'Estrange, Millard and a new 7 would add alot of Creativity imo.'"
I hope you're right but of those which are playmakers?
L'Estrange maybe around the ruck area but what about 1st and 2nd receivers? Kearney may become a convereted stand off having played most of his rugby at fullback so he's not exactly proven. Millard is a centre and a runner. He may create something for himself but he's not going to be playmaker in the middle of the park.
You're presuming we're signing a new 7. I hope you're right because if we're not we'll be going into the season with even fewer halfbacks than last year when we had only 2.
If Deacon's going to be the one playmaker in the side with Kearney and Sykes sharing the stand off role then we'll struggle to break down defences again.
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| Quote ="Bradford Badger"Cas nailed on'"
I'll support a new club if so.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Hope [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/rugby-league-headlines/Leeds-Rhinos-Gibson-set-to.5545179.jpThis rumour[/url that someone mentioned had nothing in it. Gibson or Millard, thats a tough choice
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I said ages ago on Substandard that Gibson would never make it at the top level & got a slating, surprise, surprise. I was right about Deacon, I am right about Gibson.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
If Deacon's going to be the one playmaker in the side with Kearney and Sykes sharing the stand off role then we'll struggle to break down defences again.'"
If that's the case we'll struggle full stop, what other SL team would seriously consider going in to a full season with the worst performing number 7 from the previous season and the possibility of two stand in No 6s, neither of whom are established in that role and one of whom has proven to be particularly injury prone.
We need to recruit either a quality 6 or 7 at the minimum. I could imagine Kearney at FB (we have cover in Platt) with Halley to the wing, but if Kearney's been recruited to play 6 with Sykes as cover then we'll end up in exactly the same mess as this season. These are pivotal roles where a close understanding between players is essential, we should be looking to build a long term combination with Deacon dropping to a support role, if we are indeed 'rebuilding', not using him as a lynchpin with rotating stand ins at 6.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Going into next season with Sykes at 6 and Deacon at 7 is just unthinkable.
I'd settle for Sykes at 6 with a new 7. But basically Deacon lost his claim to be first choice 7 months ago imo.'"
2 Years ago is far more apt.
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| I seriously hope we are not signing gibson, especially if it is at the expense of millard. Gibson has failed to live up to the expectations. If he was signed as cover, and not taking up much of the cap then that would be ok, but at the expense of millard or a new half, please no!
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"I seriously hope we are not signing gibson, especially if it is at the expense of millard. Gibson has failed to live up to the expectations. If he was signed as cover, and not taking up much of the cap then that would be ok, but at the expense of millard or a new half, please no!'"
I seriously hope we dont sign him, full stop, even as cheap cover, our own academy lads can provide cheaper cover that a Joe Average like Gibson.
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| There is no way he is any better than crookes, surely we are not in for him.
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Quote BRETT Kearney is expected to join the exodus of NRL star's to the Super League by signing with Bradford within the next 48-hours.
Off-contract at Cronulla, the 25-year-old played just one game this year for the Sharks after suffering a season-ending foot injury in round one.
It's understood Kearney will join Manly legend Steve Menzies at Bradford, who have also signed Sea Eagles duo Glenn Hall and Heath L'Estrange for next season.
The explosive fullback and former Country Origin star has recovered from surgery and will commence his comeback trail next week when he begins running for the first time in five months.
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| You know, if after all this Sam does not end up at Manly I'll eat Bullseye's hat!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You know, if after all this Sam does not end up at Manly I'll eat Bullseye's hat!'"
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Sorry you've lost me here a little?
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Why would that mean Sam would be going? All three were off-contract.
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For what it's worth I agree there seems an excellent relationship with the two clubs and obviously Hasler and Macca are friendly from their Hull days so it does indeed look likely he'll go there.
Personally I reckon he may follow Beaver over at the end of next year though.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Ah I see..
For what it's worth I agree there seems an excellent relationship with the two clubs and obviously Hasler and Macca are friendly from their Hull days so it does indeed look likely he'll go there.
Personally I reckon he may follow Beaver over at the end of next year though.'"
Yup Seems you are wired up similar to me. =cyan[size=59 Maybe that's something you should be very worried about...?[/size
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