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| Don't go Maccbull, it's not an exclusive club,we are all gods children
Now if you was Joe Tamani I would probably say go on then go
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| Probably the best tackling technique out of anyone in our entire squad. Keep him.
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| YES.
Dumping lads at 21 is as stupid as it gets.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"YES.
Dumping =#FF0000talented still developing lads =#FF0000who want to play for us at 21 is as stupid as it gets.'"
I agree, and added a bit for clarity on what I think.
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| Yes. Surely we should be keeping him, if only as a squad player. We must be something like 4 or 5 players short of a full squad, it would be stupid to let any of the present squad go (with the exception of Diskin), we should be adding to the squad.
We have let too many young homebred players go who come back to bite us. Whats the point in nurturing young players then letting them go, we might as well be a feeder club.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I started a thread on this the other day but it got poo pooed!
Time to leave this forum as it's become an exclusive club and I'm an outsider.'"
If you pay me £500 in used notes in a brown envelope i can definitely get you accepted into the club and then you'll be an insider. And extra pony and you're promoted to the Clique.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"curtain.gif If you pay me £500 in used notes in a brown envelope i can definitely get you accepted into the club and then you'll be an insider. And extra pony and you're promoted to the Clique.'"
IIRC, they spelt it CLICK....
Whatever happened to them, btw? Don't say they set up a message board!
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| Quote ="roger daly"I don't know if I would agree that every other super league club would want Donaldson
Surely if that was the case he wouldn't be spending so much time at Dewsbury '"
Perhaps if he hadn't suffered three consecutive ruptured cruciate ligaments he might not be gaining confidence and fitness elsewhere. He's only 21 and when we signed him, it was in the face of stiff competition from sveral major clubs. At his age, and given the obvious grit and determination to even be playing at all after those setbacks, I would be very happy to give him time to regain his full fitness, unless the medicos opined that he never will.
Quote ="roger daly"his lack of size means he doesn't do anything to get excited about '"
As said, he's only 21, and at 5'11" and 14 stone he's hardly a midget either.
Quote ="roger daly"Think it's time we looked at a better class of player not just average squad members'"
He has showed outstanding promise which may or may not be fullfilled given his terrible run of serious injuries but when we signed him at about 17 he was in the very top echelon of signings and to dismiss him as "average" is, with respect, not logical. Whatever his future holds, he's never been that.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"IIRC, they spelt it CLICK....
Whatever happened to them, btw? Don't say they set up a message board!'"
the clique? Why, we meet weekly at tigertot's mansion, but please don't tell anyone.
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| Yes. Give him another 2 or 3 years. Gets through a lot of tackles.
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| He's a decent squad player. Should improve. He's had little game time after all. Worth another deal unless we can get anyone much better.
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| FA if Donaldson gets a new contract I hope he makes my opinion of him,at this moment in time,look stupid
I also hope the same where Addy is concerned,I am not his biggest fan either
Addy played 6 on Friday in a must win game for us and we won,so I suppose he did his job
I hope I turn out to be wrong on both of them
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I started a thread on this the other day but it got poo pooed!
Time to leave this forum as it's become an exclusive club and I'm an outsider.'"
Its less Cliquey on here than at any point since I joined in 2001. This is in no small part to my tireless moderating, judicious use of Personal Messages and winning smile.
When I look back to when AF did it. Christ he was one serious cretin. Then Bullseye - well he's a buffoon obviously. And as for the retardedly named 'bullpower' well frankly he's just a gimp.
No, I've worked hard to win peoples respect and if like me you treat people with common courtesy you'll thrive.
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| Quote ="roger daly"I don't know if I would agree that every other super league club would want Donaldson
Surely if that was the case he wouldn't be spending so much time at Dewsbury
Northernrelic states he shows good effort and defence,surely that should be a given if you want to be a super league player(yes I know in some games this season not all of our players shown that,Leeds at home especially)
It's the lack of anything with ball in hand that I'm on about,and you can't say he always takes it in,yes he does but his lack of size means he doesn't do anything to get excited about
Think it's time we looked at a better class of player not just average squad members'"
3 of our players are in the top 3 for missed tackles. All play in the back-row so we need to find a back-rower that can actually tackle. Donaldson fits that bill. He is 21, he has already showed some decent solid performances. He has had two serous knee injuries which a lot of players wouldn't have come back, is it any wonder he hasn't set the world alight? Jamie Peacock didn't even make his debut for us until he us 22 IIRC.
Quote I am on the fence. I don't like him as a player personally but I do respect the fact that he can defend. He just has no go forward and we desperately need players that have that go forward or else we will continue to be battered by other packs.'"
Go forward isn't our problem, it's defending, particularly in the back row as mentioned above. I don't think his go forward is as bad as some make out, he runs hard on to the ball, has decent foot work for a forward and makes good yards.
It would be ridiculous to get rid of him, who are we going to replace him with? We can't go out and get a Steve Menzies, Cory Paterson type player. We have to nurture our own. I would rather than Donaldson who is only going to improve. I still think we will see him in an England shirt one day.
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| Quote ="roger daly"FA if Donaldson gets a new contract I hope he makes my opinion of him,at this moment in time,look stupid
I also hope the same where Addy is concerned,I am not his biggest fan either
Addy played 6 on Friday in a must win game for us and we won,so I suppose he did his job
I hope I turn out to be wrong on both of them'"
I think the jury's still out on both Donno and Addy although I think Addy has been a big asset this year. My concern is who a club like ours could sign to replace them, if as a number have suggested (me included), Walker is also struggling. I just can't see the club signing 2 or 3 better quality second rows who are going to be available, or would come to us. Our best hope is to let the second row stay as it is and sign another Sidlow type player or two in the props, and if poss keep Blythe. That looks the best we can hope for.
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| So we have the majority saying yes give Donsldson another contract,interesting to see some views,from him been a good tackler(don't think any doubt there) his potential not realised yet,probably down to injuries(obviously not his fault),he's a good squad member and we need to keep our young ones and not let other clubs get the benefit as they progress over the years
I'm happy to go with the majority
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| YES from me, for all his attributes and potential already mentioned.
Its not as though his presumed modest salary will prevent further expensive signings.
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| The last time I checked, we didn't appear to have bucket loads of Wonga to throw around at big stars, coupled with the fact Donno is a great defender (unlike Whitehead aka Mr Miss Tackle !). Get him signed up, he knows the spirit of the club, is young, will improve.
JJB wasn't exactly setting the place on fire at 21 was he, and he isn't a 6 foot giant either !
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| Agree - all depends on the budget for players 2014 and capability to pay up to the salary cap.
Certainly not paying up to the salary cap this year.
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| Well, yet again we're on half the Sky money and, fair enough, we seem to be maximising other income streams but I'd be surprised if that were sufficient to cover the loss of competition money. Let's not forget, we weren't paying full cap when we [idid[/i have the full Sky money under the old regime. Much as I'd probably expect the club to name paying the full cap as an aspiration I doubt that will be matched by reality.
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| Most fans would like an Abramovich, so it wouldn't matter how much the net loss was each year. As we haven't got one, I'm happy with anything which doesn't lead to a six figure minus at the bottom of the spreadsheet at the year end. And while we are on half Sky money, that is almost impossible to achieve, I think.
What do we think we happen, to each of the other SL clubs, if suddenly THEY each had half THEIR distribution removed for 2 years? We would see a very different SL, and yet we are supposed to be (and are) competing with the rest. How we are doing it I don't know.
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| Donaldson, if he stays fit, is a keeper. Massively hard worker, great attitude and a machine in defence. On top of that, when he plays with some confidence, he's got a good step and decent pace for a backrower too.
If he can stay injury free for a while, his confidence will return, and he'll be hard to keep out of the side. Even with as many good backrowers as we already have.
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| Yes!
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| Yes. No brainer IMO.
I'm convinced he will come back to bite us if we don't keep him.
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