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| Quote ="hi de hi"I really don't know what to do now?
Do i go to the game and show my support for Bradford Rugby League, or do i boycott the game to show my disgust at Caisley and his puppet?'"
Now what would Harry Hill say............
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| Sammut on Twitter: "All the lads turned up for a meeting with the administrator only for him to concel without informing us!...#stillnothingchanges
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| Martyn Sadler on Twitter: "I suspect that the Bulls players meeting this morning was to tell them that Nobby would coach them. I wonder whether he has thought again.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"I really don't know what to do now?
Do i go to the game and show my support for Bradford Rugby League, or do i boycott the game to show my disgust at Caisley and his puppet?'"
Simple, if its on you go and support the players wearing the shirt.
Its still only rumour and conjecture that caisley is pulling the strings. We don't actually know (and if someone claims to know I wouldn't belive them).
And what happens if many people get their way, no caisley, then no other bid materilises...what then?
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| Has anyone ever seen Caisely & Ken Bates in the same room?
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| What if BG is actually meeting the person claiming to have been representing Greenwoods? If there is an opportunity there I'd expect him to follow it up. Not contacting the players is unprofessional but imo meeting someone looking to buy the club is higher priority.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Has anyone ever seen Caisely & Ken Bates in the same room?'"
I like what your saying, does this now mean Middle East interest TT? I think we should be told!
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| James Deighton has tweeted -
Quote #BradfordBulls players are unable to train as they can't use the gym for "Health&Safety" reasons. This is utter madness'"
This is barmy...My god how must you supporters be feeling?
Now the bloody players are being messed around as well?!
Like the above poster has said BG might well be meeting this Greenwoods chap, BUT not telling the players of the club is just not good practice.
You would of thought he'd need the players on his side?!
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"What if BG is actually meeting the person claiming to have been representing Greenwoods? If there is an opportunity there I'd expect him to follow it up. Not contacting the players is unprofessional but imo meeting someone looking to buy the club is higher priority.'"
Indeed. He could have just told one of the staff at the club to contact the players...oh ...hang on
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| Quote ="Duckman"Indeed. He could have just told one of the staff at the club to contact the players...oh
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yeah if there is a choice between maliciousness and incompetence I assume the later in the absence of evidence. All he'd need to do would be to phone 1 of the players. Surely that can't be beyond him.
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| can't use gym to train, is that because they have sacked the only personnel who were qualified first aid cover.....??????
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"yeah if there is a choice between maliciousness and incompetence I assume the later in the absence of evidence. All he'd need to do would be to phone 1 of the players. Surely that can't be beyond him.'"
agree, you would have thought he'd have met with the captain yesterday and used that condiut into the players if nothing else. crazy, but I'm sadly not surprised by anything now.
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| would this not give the players grounds to walk, breach of contract from the club, failing to provide a safe working environment?
bit of a stretch i know.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"can't use gym to train, is that because they have sacked the only personnel who were qualified first aid cover.....??????'"
I'm not sure, as I've not seen any hard and fast rules on this, but there might have to be a qualified coach or conditioner present (or at least employed by the club) or the players might not be insured while they train in the gym.
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| Sure, communication failure aside, has anyone considered that he may be at a meeting with a potential investor (or other club related matter) that may have resulted in the meeting today being cancelled or delayed?
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| Quote ="Him"Quote ="pie.warrior"can't use gym to train, is that because they have sacked the only personnel who were qualified first aid cover.....??????'"
I'm not sure, as I've not seen any hard and fast rules on this, but there might have to be a qualified coach or conditioner present (or at least employed by the club) or the players might not be insured while they train in the gym.'"
In a local gym you only need to have some one who is first aid trained, not necisarily gym qualified so in essence the receptionist only needs to be in. I don't know if it is the same for sports clubs and they need some one who has a more specialised quals (not necesarily first aid) or like some one said there may be no one who is first aid qualified left but was one of those made redundant the physio?
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| At which point would the players become free agents
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| Quote ="fatbaztod100"In a local gym you only need to have some one who is first aid trained, not necisarily gym qualified so in essence the receptionist only needs to be in. I don't know if it is the same for sports clubs and they need some one who has a more specialised quals (not necesarily first aid) or like some one said there may be no one who is first aid qualified left but was one of those made redundant the physio?'"
I think the difference being you go to a local gym, you sign a disclaimer "I'm an adult using equipment at my own risk, blah, blah, blah". The Bulls are using the gym as part of their work remit, therefore different rules will apply - one being I assume that they can only use the gym with "x" professional there (whether this is a physio, coach I haven't a clue".
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| I'm sure a lot of players used to go to public gyms. Can they not still do so?
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Sure, communication failure aside, has anyone considered that he may be at a meeting with a potential investor (or other club related matter) that may have resulted in the meeting today being cancelled or delayed?'"
Yes, and thats what it had better be because I see no other even vaguely ok reason to treat the players like this. But even if this was the case, does he not own a mobile? Does he not have Diskin or Heaths number? To put it in his language rather than mine, the players are the only remaining asset of any worth, so consideration should be made to keeping them honestly and timely informed. Or he could treat them as other human beings, not assets, and just show them some basic respect.
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| One of the main reasons I got the hell out of corporate insolvency, years ago and after a period in that field, was that I could not act in the way that it seems it is necessary to act in that field. It seems to take a special kind of person, with massively-broad shoulders, to be an insolvency practitioner. I care too much about my fellow human beings to be able to do that.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Sure, communication failure aside, has anyone considered that he may be at a meeting with a potential investor (or other club related matter) that may have resulted in the meeting today being cancelled or delayed?'"
Not for a second. Otherwise the players would have got a message saying "Sorry lads, I really can't make the meeting as I now have to be at a meeting with a potential investor (or other club related matter)".
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| Quote ="Duckman"Yes, and thats what it had better be because I see no other even vaguely ok reason to treat the players like this. But even if this was the case, does he not own a mobile? Does he not have Diskin or Heaths number? To put it in his language rather than mine, the players are the only remaining asset of any worth, so consideration should be made to keeping them honestly and timely informed. Or he could treat them as other human beings, not assets, and just show them some basic respect.'"
I absolutely agree with your sentiments, but the harsh reality is even a shred of feeling for your fellow humans would pretty much rule you out of a career in insolvency. However if he is trying to put a game on at the weekend - to bring in some more cash - this shambles cannot be helping. The team have done us proud to date but feel that this weekend might be a step too far now.
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"I absolutely agree with your sentiments, but the harsh reality is even a shred of feeling for your fellow humans would pretty much rule you out of a career in insolvency. However if he is trying to put a game on at the weekend - to bring in some more cash - this shambles cannot be helping. The team have done us proud to date but feel that this weekend might be a step too far now.'"
True, I don't think me and the insolvency industry will miss each other , but even if we discount the human element, [iif [/ihe is trying to put a game on on sun and maximise his only remaining assets, how does he think that will happen without players or a coach onside? Its just counterproductive whichever way you look at it, or just plain stupid.
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