So what were the questions put to Chalmers? Anything interesting come out of those? Can only see write ups about Chalmers' presentation.

The main concern I think is about ticket pricing. It can't stay exactly the same as this year as I think we could be having anything from 2-4 fewer home games next year. Paying the same, for less, is a hard sell at the best of times, never mind after the dross we have seen this year.
Unless player recruitment is exciting, and we perform well in the friendlies, I don't think that will be achievable

Is Toovey staying?
Why don't we consider moving out of Odsal?
Why should we believe you?
Can we expect more forums in future within the year?
How many of the 14 players claiming against us are contracted for 2018?
What do you think of UK referees Geoff?

It's a hard sell alright but not impossible - it really depends on the club getting out regular bits of good news that show it's turned the corner.

It doesn't help that we simply do not know yet what the format will be for League 1 next season.

There's all sorts of rumours about whether some clubs will fold or merge, and how the fixtures will play out. Everyone was unhappy with the fixture format this season - teams played each other once, EITHER home or away. This meant a very unbalanced fixture list (especially when some teams had to go to Toronto and others did not!).

I think the RFL will aim to have proper home and away fixtures next season (hence dumping the League 1 Cup). But when that would be confirmed is anyones guess.

But I agree - surely nobody in their right mind would buy a ST when we don't know how many games it's going to cover...

I got the impression he believed it was a part of slump but it tied in time wise with the recall of loanees and injuries. One more thing that all contributed at the same time.

He also stated he still doesn't understand why the new company is part of the claim.

I thought that the fact that he dedicated a slide to it while glossed over the return of the loan players meant he saw it as at least an equal factor.

Whatever. It's history now. I just hope we learn the lesson that relying on loan players and dual reg is not a good idea.

I couldn't really see the slides (aging eyes), just gonig off what he'd said. They were fairly clear on their dislike for DR though, so I doubt we'll see that next year.

One of the reasons I'm cautiously optimistic is that for the first time in a long while our owner is first and foremost a Rugby League man, if he can use that experience and knowledge married to a realistic cap spend linked to income - and somehow sells the dream to enough quality players, we might, might, have a chance of at least starting an upwards trend rather than keep sliding down the spiral.

At this point I'm not even too concerned over how he came to be in charge, or what might happen in 3/4 years time in terms of restructuring. I reckon I'll just be grateful for having a club that exists in 2018 that could compete on even terms week in week out, and someone in charge who appears to have a reasonable plan. My purchase of a season ticket for 2018 will depend on the squad moves made and if he starts to follow through on his plans.

I agree with Bullseye though that I suspect AC slightly underestimates just how much the fan base has taken in disappointment/lies/false promises/etc, and the disconnect and mistrust that has engendered. Its going to take a long time of delivering realistic aims to get everyone back on board (even if its just small steps like actually having the kit for sale before xmas and being to do online transactions!) but it is possible, a winning team on the pitch fixes a lot.

Well it sounded more positive than i thought it would. I've always been in the middle of "believing every little good thing they tell us" & "criticising no matter what"

For me the hybrid system is a good thing. I think going fully PT would have made it too difficult to ever return to FT in the future. So a hybrid system is the best way forward. Like others have said, it depends what players we get. If Halafihi, Davies are the FT players, could be a long season. For me Wilkinson, Kirk, Pickersgill, Butterworth, Oakes (if he stays) Ricketts need to be the first to be offered FT deals.

The focus on the academy is very encouraging. It will probably make us more attractive to young players and gives John Bastian more resources (he's already worked wonders with limited resources) Having a reserves is a good thing and puts other clubs to shame. Although some on twitter obsessed with us still trying to find the fact we will be running a reserves a negative.

It does sound like licensing will be returning and Chalmers is trying to get all the off-field stuff in play before then. Even if it doesn't and there is still a form of relegation, having strong foundations is only way we'll recover as a club.

I'll be getting a ST. Hopefully some good news is the off-season will encourage others to do the same.

His optimism comes across, however it's actions rather than works that he should be judged on. Lets see how we stand at the start of next season.

He does need to do meetings like this a lot more often though.

Some things I'll be looking to see sorted before I buy a season ticket.

1. A reasonable squad being assembled that is a credible promotion challenger.

2. Online shop up and running before Xmas.

3. End to spelling mistakes in media releases.

E tickets next year apparently, but and print them off the internet. wants to save money employing people. Make sense.

3b. A website actually worth clicking on (which is in part a combination of 2 and 3).

4. New coaching staff confirmed? - Toovey would need his head testing if it's a choice between Gold Coast and Bradford. When us nutjobs who've been around 20+ years are finding it hard to be motivated, can't blame "an outsider" for looking for something better.

Are the owners of your club really make all these plans on the back of something that may or may not happen? Did they say who all your reserve grade teams would be playing? I mean you can only play Hull and Halifax so many times without either a - Getting bored or b - Hull stealing anyone who is any good. I also think your owners are playing you with the hybrid system and dressing it up rather than saying they are going part time, I give it a month in to the new season before you really understand what a hybrid system is(FWIW Fev and Fax run a hybrid full and part time system they just dont dress it up like that).

Up until the launch of Super Dooper league many teams could have been classed as 'hybrid' (Wigan being a notable exception). It seemed to work okay back in those days (or do I need to remove my rose tinted spectacles..?)

3000 season ticket sales is fanciful at best to be honest. I won't be buying one but little was likely to convince me to make such a commitment after so many let downs. The season is over with and perhaps if we can have an off season without any dramas I will feel a little more enthused about getting to a few games next year paying on the gate.

I spoke to a few people leaving the forum and pretty much everyone said no chance of 3k at the same price as this year.

If Geoff was watching the Titans lose again to Parramatta this morning hes probably thinking out of the frying pan and into the fire.Its a toss up whose worse them or us.They are woeful.

I can't think there's any chance of a Toovey settling for a part time coaching role in Div 3 nor does it make sense to pay whatever the going rate you pay Tooveys to move to UK and live here, given our new straitened circumstances. I also don't think it's reasonable to expect him to take a pay cut. If by some miracle he stayed then that alone would prove his dedication to the cause, but I don't think anyone would criticise him if he thought this was not for him.

That's the general vibe I get as well. I can't believe it was brushed over last night without comment. With hindsight, I should have questioned them on it.

OK, I've only just got around to reading about this forum properly. I am frankly amazed that so many people are thinking it was largely positive. Sure a couple of good things to come out of it (academy set ups for example), but also some bad (season ticket prices being frozen is ridiculous), but largely it's more of the usual suggestion that things are happening that they haven't backed up yet. In some cases (franchise) they won't have to back it up for years yet.

It seems like another of those forums where everyone falls in love with the person doing the speech and thinks he comes across really well, only to later realise they've bought a timeshare in the bermuda triangle using their entire life savings. Perhaps that's because I wasn't there to stare into his gorgeous eyes while he told me he wanted my wallet.

There were a lot of happy clappers there but you'd expect that. I'm giving Chalmers until the start of next season to see if he delivers on some of his pledges.

Have you emaled him about the press releases yet?

So from weeks and weeks of " it can never work" to well actually there are 2 clubs already working that way ?

Do you ever actually read what you type ?

I suspect the ticket prices may change depending on how many league games we actually end up playing next season. It pretty much sums up the state of RL at the moment when we still don't know such a thing.
Obviously if we end up playing less games then the price will adjust accordingly.

I'd be interested to see a comparison in season ticket prices between ourselves and the other League 1 clubs. Someone on twitter suggested that Keighley's season tickets were only £14 cheaper than ours but I don't know how true that is.

This. Until we know number of games its hard to say whether season tickets are overpriced or not. Should be remembered that a lot of costs club has will stay same with a saving on first team playing budget being offset by increased costs for enlarged academy. All other costs will be broadly same irrespective of dropping down a league.

One interesting thing they stated was that our central funding next year will be £150k. This is the funding we would have got this year as lowest funding level in championship but we're dropping down a level so surely our central funding should be £75k which is central funding all championship 1 clubs get?. Is the level of championshiop 1 funding increasing next year? (or an expanded 14 team championship with us on lowest funding level

).

Hope they are correct and they aren't just assuming we'll get same next year as we would have done this year pre-liquidation.