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| Quote ="debaser"I don't think you will find many to argue with you.
It's not just Bulls fans though is it, it is everyone who lives here. Bradford Council are slowly letting the whole city get demolished bit by bit. Maybe when there is nothing left, they will be happy.
We should be inspired by the scenes in Egypt, etc. Get down to City Hall and overthrow the useless t**ts.'"
Lets start a Facebook campaign!
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| Quote ="tigertot"I might be wrong, but I think they even beat me one year.'"
I thought the Monster Raving Loony Party won City Hall EVERY year?
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| Well, I have voted for them every time I could. In their manifesto, they would have re-named Five Lane Ends "Six Lane Ends", which it is, but as they never got in, this travesty continues.
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| Bradford council needs to pull its finger out.
Theres 2 well supported clubs in Bradford, both with stadium needs.
As we know Odsal needs properly updating and Bradford City are playing in a Stadium they don't own and Can't really afford to play in due to very high rent.
I wonder how much money these clubs have brought into the local economy from away support and Sponsorship over the years. If there were no pro clubs in Bradford, why else would anybody ever want to visit the place. The last 10 years the council have brought the city to its knees, you can't even do a good shop there anymore!
The best way forward is a Shared stadium. I know a lot of City fans won't be happy with that..but tufff! A stadium what would be used all year round.
Any way if all fails you can all join us at Dewsbury, we'll be happy to fit 2000 of you in, but the rest of you will have to sit on the fence.
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| Quote ="Yorkshire Loyal"Any way if all fails you can all join us at Dewsbury, we'll be happy to fit 2000 of you in, but the rest of you will have to sit on the fence.'"
Great little stadium, great fans - we could do far worse!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Which, given that folk your age will never ever be able to afford to retire, means never, of course...'"
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I thought the Monster Raving Loony Party won City Hall EVERY year?'"
I know what you mean Adey, just like they always seem to get in government! Like I've always said, it doesn't who you vote for it's always the government/council who gets in.
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| Quote ="debaser"I don't think you will find many to argue with you.
It's not just Bulls fans though is it, it is everyone who lives here. Bradford Council are slowly letting the whole city get demolished bit by bit. Maybe when there is nothing left, they will be happy.
We should be inspired by the scenes in Egypt, etc. Get down to City Hall and overthrow the useless t**ts.'"
Bradford Council and what they're doing (or not doing) to the City were a major reason in me moving out of the city last year. Utterly and completely useless they are.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Would that be every citizen of the city voting on every decision or should we elect representatives to make the decisions on our behalf?'"
That's actually a fine statement TT; I particularly like the word "representatives". Sadly, when we vote in "representatives", to represent us, they then unilaterally convince themselves that they are our "leaders" rather than our representatives and begin to tell us to do what [ithey[/i want, rather than what [iwe [/iactually wanted.
We call, this system 'democracy', which it more or less is, since we do vote (well some of us do), but all we get are some dictators who tell us what they think we want to hear in order to get elected, and then tell us what to do for the next five years. Roll on the next set
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| I refer the honourable gentleman to my post above.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"That's actually a fine statement TT; I particularly like the word "representatives". Sadly, when we vote in "representatives", to represent us, they then unilaterally convince themselves that they are our "leaders" rather than our representatives and begin to tell us to do what [ithey[/i want, rather than what [iwe [/iactually wanted.
We call, this system 'democracy', which it more or less is, since we do vote (well some of us do), but all we get are some dictators who tell us what they think we want to hear in order to get elected, and then tell us what to do for the next five years. Roll on the next set
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I have always wondered how our representatives decide priorities in voting. The three things they have to balance are the party whip, their own personal feelings on an issue and what the majority of their constituents want. When those three things are all onthe same side of an issue - fine. If they are not - which takes priority?
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| They do what their party tells them. The views of the people they are supposed to represent come way down on the list.
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| Hood should threaten to move the 'Northern Bulls' out of Bradford! I believe Calderdale Council would welcome a premier sporting team and the additional revenue and kudos it would bring.
Perhaps then, and only then will we get any movement from the muppets who claim to be running Bradford
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| Quote ="Frank Whitcombe"Hood should threaten to move the 'Northern Bulls' out of Bradford! I believe Calderdale Council would welcome a premier sporting team and the additional revenue and kudos it would bring.
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Why should Bradford council help the Bulls?
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| There is only one argument for why - because success for the Bulls rubs off on the city as a whole. And, in a city that seems to be failing in most areas at the moment and that is rotting from the centre, anything positive about the city must surely be worth saving and supporting?
Other councils have recognised this.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"There is only one argument for why - because success for the Bulls rubs off on the city as a whole. And, in a city that seems to be failing in most areas at the moment and that is rotting from the centre, anything positive about the city must surely be worth saving and supporting?
Other councils have recognised this.'"
Indeed they have, I think amongst the chattering classes it's called '[ithe vision thing'[/i. Vision, of course is one thing (amongst many) missing in our (once) fair city.
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| In preference to libraries, swimming pools, disabled centres, schools, transport?
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| I can understand why the council have had to pull out of OSV but not sure the spin they've put on it... essentially that it was that or some special needs schools... has been taken in by anyone. Why not just say that due to overspending in the past the nation, as a whole, has had to tighten their belts and they currently have had to focus their resources elsewhere rather trying to blame the mean Tory government.
A local council not supporting a local team financially is hardly something that only Bradford Council are guilty of. When LUFC wanted a load to buy back Elland Road a few years ago Leeds council were unwilling to sanction it.
On a positive note, the board seem to have the desire and confidence to push on alone in some shape or form so hopefully someone else will back them financially. The council, despite withdrawing their financial support for the village, still also seem to want to help the Bulls in some other way of possible, although how much of that is them blowing smoke up our ar*es is yet to be seen.
Sod 'em. Let's do it ourselves and when they try and jump on the Bulls bandwagon the next time we have any success we'll tell them to shove it!
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| Quote In preference to libraries, swimming pools, disabled centres, schools, transport?'"
Not in preference to, as well as - Please don't believe the hype, council funding has been cut by 3% in real terms from 2007 levels and we were all partying like it was 1999 then! The response from local authorities has been lazy and about as creative as my 5 year old, waste needs to be tackled not front line services lost, but that would take some real kahunas, so libraries nobody uses close instead.
I merely want Bradford Council to contribute what they committed to contribute to the development and help get it moving, just like Wakefield MBC giving the Tigers £2m to kick start your stadium, hmm I wonder how many Disabled Centres that closed?
Other councils with, whats that word, oh yes 'vision' and effective leadership have recognised that successful sports clubs playing in decent facilities attract investment, simples. Moreover, now is the time to do it too with money relatively cheap to borrow, actually with inflation at 5% it's nearly free
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| You could probably build OSV for getting on 50% less than 3 years ago.
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| Quote ="tigertot"In preference to libraries, swimming pools, disabled centres, schools, transport?'"
Leeds City Council made the choice, when they elected to provide a rent-free lease to Harvey Nicks (IIRC), to attract the wives of the NHS mandarins when Leeds was after the NHS HQ, or when they chose to target investment at the previously-dilapidated gateways to the city to make the place look a load better to potential inward investees. They could, instead, have spent that money on the things you listed. But they saw the bigger picture. Had teh "vision" that Bulliac described.
The best way to help pay for all those things you list is by increasing the wealth of the city by attracting inwards investment. Leeds (aided and abetted by a Tory Government in the 1980s that shot itself in the foot big-time) is an example of a council that understood that. Bradford seemingly never did.
You have to create some wealth to have wealth to spend. Too many people seem to fail to understand that. Wealth up here requires inward investment. Inward investment requires some existing success stories to help convince the investors. Bradford has too few of those. A top-class sporting complex at a key gateway to Bradford, anchored by a successful sporting team (we can hope!) would surely send out a much more powerful positive message to potential investors? Without whom this city is well and truly fecked.
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| Quote ="tigertot"In preference to libraries, swimming pools, disabled centres, schools, transport?'"
Health & fitness.
Attempting to combat Bradford's higher than national average child obesity levels?
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| Quote ="tigertot"Why should Bradford council help the Bulls?'"
i'm not bothered about the council helping financially, it's more their planning department letting the bulls get something built!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Leeds City Council made the choice, when they elected to provide a rent-free lease to Harvey Nicks (IIRC), to attract the wives of the NHS mandarins when Leeds was after the NHS HQ, or when they chose to target investment at the previously-dilapidated gateways to the city to make the place look a load better to potential inward investees. They could, instead, have spent that money on the things you listed. But they saw the bigger picture. Had teh "vision" that Bulliac described.
The best way to help pay for all those things you list is by increasing the wealth of the city by attracting inwards investment. Leeds (aided and abetted by a Tory Government in the 1980s that shot itself in the foot big-time) is an example of a council that understood that. Bradford seemingly never did.
You have to create some wealth to have wealth to spend. Too many people seem to fail to understand that. Wealth up here requires inward investment. Inward investment requires some existing success stories to help convince the investors. Bradford has too few of those. A top-class sporting complex at a key gateway to Bradford, anchored by a successful sporting team (we can hope!) would surely send out a much more powerful positive message to potential investors? Without whom this city is well and truly fecked.'"
I agree with all of that. It is very easy to slag off Bradford council, it's probably well deserved, but I wouldn't fancy trying to resurrect this city especially at this time. I was trying to put a question in some peoples minds when they trot out the usual blame sentences. RL & Bradford Bulls aren't in the state they are due to incompetent local authorities.
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