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Platt, despite his scapegoating, has survived to become one of our more dependable, enthusiastic and effective backs. He isn't Greg Inglis, but he isn't a problem either. He's got more pace than most in the side, has improved his defence a lot and makes few errors.
Crookes has done nothing wrong. I don't see any reason why he should be got rid of at this stage. He is another hard worker and very enthusiastic, and deserves a place in the squad.
Herbert can't go because we have nobody else. He is what he is, he des not dominate games but does a lot of shrewd work and provides assists for half our tries, so unless there's a Matt Orford or something in the broom cupboard, getting rid of Herbert would be stupid in the extreme.
Donaldson - well, words fail me. Before his serious injury, this lad looked like he was going to rip up trees. We would be absolutely bonkers to let him go, he has already showed us as much potential as any of the young 'uns and needs and deserves a chance.
Ah Van - in for his kicking, which is no great shakes, I am not his biggest fan but tell me who else better we have to do his job and I'll consider it.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Platt, despite his scapegoating, has survived to become one of our more dependable, enthusiastic and effective backs. He isn't Greg Inglis, but he isn't a problem either. He's got more pace than most in the side, has improved his defence a lot and makes few errors.
Crookes has done nothing wrong. I don't see any reason why he should be got rid of at this stage. He is another hard worker and very enthusiastic, and deserves a place in the squad.
Herbert can't go because we have nobody else. He is what he is, he des not dominate games but does a lot of shrewd work and provides assists for half our tries, so unless there's a Matt Orford or something in the broom cupboard, getting rid of Herbert would be stupid in the extreme.
Donaldson - well, words fail me. Before his serious injury, this lad looked like he was going to rip up trees. We would be absolutely bonkers to let him go, he has already showed us as much potential as any of the young 'uns and needs and deserves a chance.
Ah Van - in for his kicking, which is no great shakes, I am not his biggest fan but tell me who else better we have to do his job and I'll consider it.'"
What he said.
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Platt - We need 2 quality centres IMO to add to the squad not replace Platt. I'd let Walker go personally.
Herbert - If we can sign a top Scrum Half I'd keep him to play stand off unless the new SH was an Aussie or a proven Stand off is available in which case I wouldn't offer him a new deal.
Ah Van - Looks ok on the Wing. No worse than Vainikolo in his first season. Again depends on who's available.
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| what does donaldson offer to the team,somebody please tell me cos all i see is him doing is driving the ball in and hes too small for that, never passes or beats a man, a smaller version of langley
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| Quote ="roger daily"in my opinion if the bulls are ever gonna climb the table in the near future we have to get rid of the following from saturdays team
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undecided on one or two others but im afraid these offer absolutely nothing,and i would of played diskin for 80 minutes instead of putting addy on'"
If you would of played disko for the full 80 minutes instead of bringing addy on, then why have you not put him(addy) in your 5 to get rid?
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| cos i think addy will be good in time,just not at hooker
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| Quote ="roger daily"what does donaldson offer to the team,somebody please tell me cos all i see is him doing is driving the ball in and hes too small for that, never passes or beats a man, a smaller version of langley'"
You are the most critical person I've ever heard. The lad is 19 years old he was being touted as a future International stalwart by many commentators before picking up a potentially career ending injury last season.
You won't see the best of him at all this season probably. It's not just a case of building up after the injury but also building up his confidence.
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| I hope "Roger Daily" isn't another of someone's multiple personas.
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| even before he got injured i thought he offered very little to the team, we have too many players who offer very little or nothing at all
and adey this is my first time on here, been reading it for a while and just wanted to put my opinion on
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| Quote ="roger daily"even before he got injured i thought he offered very little to the team, we have too many players who offer very little or nothing at all
and adey this is my first time on here, been reading it for a while and just wanted to put my opinion on'"
Fair enough, I thought he looked good.
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| Quote ="roger daily"cos i think addy will be good in time,just not at hooker'"
Where would you put him? LF?
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| think he will be loose forward but just not yet, with our lack of quality at half back, we need a quality loose forward more than ever for next season
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| Quote ="roger daily"think he will be loose forward but just not yet, with our lack of quality at half back, we need a quality loose forward more than ever for next season'"
Then where would you put Addy??!?!!!!?!!??!?!?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I hope "Roger Daily" isn't another of someone's multiple personas.'"
seems likely doesnt it. he does have familiar 'im right and everyone should listen' style to his posts.
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| when have i said im right and everybody else is wrong
i have put my opionion on here and nothing else
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| Quote ="roger daily"was dave halley not under contract
and sorry i didnt put this on the right thread for you, idiot'"
Pot, kettle, black?
As for Dave Halley his contract was up at the end of this season, and a mutual agreement was made to let him go early so he could play for another club. I seriously doubt that Michael Platt is going to walk away from another two years of his contract just because you think he's crap.
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| Quote ="roger daily"when have i said im right and everybody else is wrong
i have put my opionion on here and nothing else'"
and my opionion is if we want to be better than 9th/10th placed in the table we need better than crookes,donaldson,herbert etc etc, who at best are very very mediocre players
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| Quote ="roger daily"even before he got injured i thought he offered very little to the team, ...'"
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I think that both of these players will be in with a very good chance of selection for the England squad in the 2013 World Cup.'"
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| can somebody tell me though what he actually does thats good, cant rememebr him passing to create anything or beating a man
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| I think you are being harsh on him. He was offered scholorships by every big name in Super League, we beat them all to his signature and we should be delighted we did. As has been said he's coming back from a horrendous injury which affected his pre-season build up.
Getting rid of Donaldson would lead to me calling for the Board and Potter to be sectioned en masse. It would also make whichever SL side he chose a stronger one.....the more I think about it the more I think you're winding us up, I'm now cross with myself for biting.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"And you would "get rid".
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| I'm all for getting rid provided we can actually get players who are better quality. Replacing like with like doesn't work as we've seen the past few years.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm all for getting rid provided we can actually get players who are better quality. Replacing like with like doesn't work as we've seen the past few years.'"
When have we done like with like? We have done like with inferior. Burgess with Sculthorpe. Deacon with Orford. Menzies with Sibbit. Etc. Ad infinitum.
I suppose to be fair, we have done better on some deals. Sheriffe with Raynor, etc.
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| Quote ="roger daily"and is this the same phil clarke who said last year rikki sheriffe was one of the best wingers in the league'"
Ah, so you want your own "I can slag the Bulls past and present players off one by one" thread. I see. But (and if you have working braincells you know this) Clarke's opinion was cited not as being true, or fact, but to underline how ludicrous your idea was to "get rid" of a player who, however much Clarke may or may not have hyped him, has had general high praise all round from a number of very well respected commentators.
I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your own opinion of Donaldson, I'm just telling you it's a barking opinion.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Ah, so you want your own "I can slag the Bulls past and present players off one by one" thread. I see. But (and if you have working braincells you know this) Clarke's opinion was cited not as being true, or fact, but to underline how ludicrous your idea was to "get rid" of a player who, however much Clarke may or may not have hyped him, has had general high praise all round from a number of very well respected commentators.
I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your own opinion of Donaldson, I'm just telling you it's a barking opinion.'"
what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team
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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team'"
Gotta agree. He's nothing but average IMO.
Never rated him and always boggled as to why people did and evidently still do.
But Phil Clarke, Steve Mac and Paul Medley think he's good, so that must be gospel.
Whitehead, Olbison, Addy are all streets ahead of him.
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