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| Quote ="dixie"
Was i the only one annoyed at Lee Sthilarie's post match comments? It was a pretty straight forward win for HKR and he doesn't think any player deserves criticism. It all seemed a bit like.. Oh well we knew that was going to happen.'"
I've read the comments on Sporting Life and I don't really see it like that. He came across as though he was saying that the young players who have come in (by which I assume he is talking about Crossley, Addy, Wardle Finnigan etc) should not have to carry the can
In fact, you could take his comments as meaning that it is actually the more experienced players who [ishould[/i be carrying the can...
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I've read the comments on Sporting Life and I don't really see it like that. He came across as though he was saying that the young players who have come in (by which I assume he is talking about Crossley, Addy, Wardle Finnigan etc) should not have to carry the can
In fact, you could take his comments as meaning that it is actually the more experienced players who [ishould[/i be carrying the can...'"
That's exactly how I read it. Kind of a "don't blame the young lads for any mistakes they made, the more experienced players should be doing far more than they are". I thought he was spot on to be honest, with the exception of one or two of the senior players, who clearly are putting in loads of effort.
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| Quote ="dixie"Given how poor our defence is, i don't think it really matters if someone comes in and makes mistakes. Is he smaller than Burrow when he first burst onto the scene? They must be plenty of players of similar stature playing in SL. If you a small it's all about techinque.
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| Yep I read it like that from St H. He's right. Some senior players are not pulling their weight and some havent done for 2 seasons now. Drop em.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I've read the comments on Sporting Life and I don't really see it like that. He came across as though he was saying that the young players who have come in (by which I assume he is talking about Crossley, Addy, Wardle Finnigan etc) should not have to carry the can
In fact, you could take his comments as meaning that it is actually the more experienced players who [ishould[/i be carrying the can...'"
Fair enough. I've found his post match comments rather odd in past tbh. He is only a stand in mind so it probably don't really matter what he says. He's just got to prove he's a good number 2 to Potter.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"I agree, but if you havent got any weight behind you then you're still going to be bumped off. It's inevitable that players are going to face one V one situations at some point so whilst its important to have the technique and commitment but also the pyhsicality to be able to make your tackle count.'"
I don't care how big they are, with the right technique they come down. What you can't do however is prevent the offload.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I don't care how big they are, with the right technique they come down. What you can't do however is prevent the offload.'"
I recall Halley once tackling Paleaaesina one on one after Paleaaesina made a break. So it cannot be purely down to size as to why Halley regularly misses tackles in one on one situations. I've also seen Rob Burrow make many a tackle one on one on much bigger players.
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| I don't think you can say that tackling ability is simply down to technique. It is a very big part of it but strength also plays a pretty big part in it.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I don't care how big they are, with the right technique they come down. What you can't do however is prevent the offload.'"
You might not, but being big and strong and being able to stand up to opponents attack or defence is part of the game. If your not strong enough to do it, you cant stand up to them, simples. Why do you think there is so much emphasis on strength and conditioning?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I don't think you can say that tackling ability is simply down to technique. It is a very big part of it but strength also plays a pretty big part in it.'"
Exactly, technique is very important, being strong is equally important.
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| Haven't been on since the game, but a couple of things need to be said :
Why drop Sheriffe over Reardon?
Worrincy needs to be dropped.
If Finigan keeps going how he is then he'll become a regular, we don't really have any quality wingers.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"While I'm still around what is up with the pa bloke at Craven Park, where we were sat up in the Gods all we got after every try of which there were quite a few was a loud booming TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY .
It reminded me of that bloke who does it for the cabbage kickers going GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL.'"
Have you heard yourself ! 250 Bulls fans ??
The PA man always names the try scorer at the home games ,you wanna try sitting away from the speakers .
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| Bradford took about 50 fans to craven park, shocking support, so dont kid yourself.
For those that did attend, respect, and keep the faith.
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| Quote ="Bombers Double Chin"Bradford took about 50 fans to craven park, shocking support, so dont kid yourself.
For those that did attend, respect, and keep the faith.'"
The thing is, we can't hope to compete with the 250,000 you bring each time to Odsal, so I think people have just given up trying.
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| Quote ="Gareth1984"I recall Halley once tackling Paleaaesina one on one after Paleaaesina made a break. So it cannot be purely down to size as to why Halley regularly misses tackles in one on one situations. I've also seen Rob Burrow make many a tackle one on one on much bigger players.'"
You've got 2 choices when there is such size differential. you can try ball & all & risk getting knocked flying, or you can try & bring them down around the legs. Halley tried the latter, but he ran in hard then stops & his own knees hit the ground before he makes contact with the attacker. IF you are coming in from the side you have no chance unless your momentum takes their legs.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"To everyone who went to Craven Park today.
It's times like this when we must all stick together and not as so many of the so called supporters have over the past four years, leave and desert the side.
I think it's a testament to have seen so many Bulls supporters there given that we haven't won since Friday 14th May and that 29-10 victory over Wakefield at Belle Vue.
Not many Super League sides would have taken the 250 or so supporters that we took today after no win ten weeks.
For those of us that got there in time for the Academy game, then they'll know where I'm coming from in saying that McNamara's legacy is there for all to see.
Jesus what a game, Hull Kingston Rovers going out to an early 16-0 lead before we score 22 points on the bounce, before yet more drama and a Rovers try on the half time whistle to take the scores at the break 22-22.
Then cue the Bradford masterclass and in particular a stunning 80 minutes from Southernwood who not only was kicking from the sidelines but his general kicking in play and what I can describe as superb vision and leadershp getting the ball moving.
In the end we had too much for the Robins as we ran out winners by 48 points to 28 in a real thriller.
I took loads of photos so will post them all tomorrow, as I've just got back from the game.
People maybe wondering why I'm not despondent or dejected, but being negative in these times of hardship isn't doing me or the club any favours.
See you all at Odsal next Sunday.'"
I think we need a re-count on that.
I would have said it was closer to 50!
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| T&A back page.
"Lee St Hilaire hit out at the Bulls’ underperformers following their tenth consecutive defeat.
Bradford’s acting head coach admitted the effort put in by several players was unacceptable during a 49-24 reversal at Hull KR. "
The interesting bit is the picture on the back page. In fairness there are 3 players in it but the central figure is our pacey second rower Michael Worrincy struggling to catch to KR player.
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| Yeah, I thought he was meant to be the fastest forward in SL?
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"The thing is, we can't hope to compete with the 250,000 you bring each time to Odsal, so I think people have just given up trying.'"
You will never be able to compete with Rovers away support ,even in our NL1 days we took more away than your lot did ! R.I.P Bullmania .
And we never ran out of beer at Craven Park unlike at your place !
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| Quote ="Red Adair"You will never be able to compete with Rovers away support ,even in our NL1 days we took more away than your lot did ! R.I.P Bullmania .
And we never ran out of beer at Craven Park unlike at your place !
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Aye, but some fans aren't so unbelievably obsessed with the amount of away support a club takes as your lot seem to be. Every time we play you, regardless of win or loss, there's a few of you on here banging on incessantly about away support. It's very repetitive and dull. The most important factor was the result of the match, which you guys seem less bothered about bizarrely.
Incidentally, drinking somewhere out of beer isn't something I'd brag about. Not when it was accompanied by the drunk idiots that were causing bother that day.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Aye, but some fans aren't so unbelievably obsessed with the amount of away support a club takes as your lot seem to be. Every time we play you, regardless of win or loss, there's a few of you on here banging on incessantly about away support. It's very repetitive and dull. The most important factor was the result of the match, which you guys seem less bothered about bizarrely.
Incidentally, drinking somewhere out of beer isn't something I'd brag about. Not when it was accompanied by the drunk idiots that were causing bother that day.'"
Yerr i saw the riot police moving into the beer tent !
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| As a Rovers fan I say well done to the Bulls fans who showed up on Saturday.
Loads of reasons for not going but the ones who did supported their team well. Makes me laugh sometimes when people talk about 'good' supporters. When loads are going and you can be part of an enthusiastic throng that is called good support. But that's the easy bit. Being part of a small group when you know you're struggling and may well get beaten, that's good support.
Also it is tough when you are used to much better times.
Actually I thought the Bulls played some excellent attacking rugby at times and it won't take too much to turn the corner. It's hard to play without half backs (even though Menzies made a good stab at it). Conceding 49 tells it's own story but then again you conceded 4 when we went to Odsal and that was with a late consolation try.
So my advice is keep the faith during this tough spell, it won't last forever. Good luck.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"As a Rovers fan I say well done to the Bulls fans who showed up on Saturday.
Loads of reasons for not going but the ones who did supported their team well. Makes me laugh sometimes when people talk about 'good' supporters. When loads are going and you can be part of an enthusiastic throng that is called good support. But that's the easy bit. Being part of a small group when you know you're struggling and may well get beaten, that's good support.
Also it is tough when you are used to much better times.
Actually I thought the Bulls played some excellent attacking rugby at times and it won't take too much to turn the corner. It's hard to play without half backs (even though Menzies made a good stab at it). Conceding 49 tells it's own story but then again you conceded 4 when we went to Odsal and that was with a late consolation try.
So my advice is keep the faith during this tough spell, it won't last forever. Good luck.'"
Spot on and thankyou for the great hospitality on Saturday.
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