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| Quote ="Bullseye"I thought that the amount of changes forced on us by injury played a big part in us looking so disjointed. The backline was almost completely different to the previous week. When we moved the ball wide it was far from slick and easy to defend against. Runners were heading sideways and it was no wonder Ulugia ended up in touch a few times as he got the ball with nowhere to go. It was poor that we kept doing that. I hope Purtell and Baille are back soon as I wasn't convinced at all by Henry and I thought Shaw is better at fullback.
On Siejka I thought he was pretty anonymous which isn't ideal for a half back. As FA said he defended ok but in attack he was poor. He doesn't seem to be able to move the ball quick enough. Many times yesterday he takes a pass and then pauses to feint to run then passes without fooling anyone and only serving to give slow ball to the men outside him. Our last tackle options were a bit rubbish yesterday too, some poor kicks. Gaskell was trying to have an influence and ended up at dummy half too often. We looked far less fluid than in previous weeks and were almost caught out.
In the forwards I thought that Olbison had a good game, he kept it simple and defended really well. O'Brien was well watched and our props didn't look as impressive as in recent weeks. I thought we were eclipsed in the 2nd half by the Batley forwards who executed a really simple but effective game plan. I was surprised Lauaki didn't get more minutes going downhill in the first half. Fleming looks a bit off the pace at the moment.
Williams took his try very well and Shaw's goalkicking was superb. Had Siejka been kicking we'd have lost for certain.
Moving on I can see us giving Siejka a few more games, if there's no improvement then I'd move Mullaney to halfback and Shaw to fullback.'"
Pretty much agree with all this post.
I genuinely don't know what anyone sees in Adam Henry. Seems to have no clue how a centre should play. Ulugia could have had a hat trick if Henry had any idea about getting reasonably close to the line before passing the ball. Instead he catches it, and immediately just passes it to his winger, leaving the oppositon defence with plenty of time to line up a tackle and push Ulugia into touch. Ulugia did his best in the circumstances, but he was given way too much to do by inept centre play. Adrian Purtell is 10 times better and I think we really missed him and his hard running yesterday. If Purtell, Baile or Blythe were fit, I can't see how Henry would get a shirt. I'd even be tempted to put Uaisele in the centres and leave Ulugia on the wing if none of the other centres are available next week. In fact, I'd pick Walshaw at centre before Henry.
Siejka I agree, Jimmy must have seen something that he's so far failed to show. Very very poor yesterday and although you need to give him time, how long do you give before you accept he's not performing and is a liability to the team? Hopefully he steps it up soon and starts to show why he was signed (other than him being the only one available after O'Brien pulled out).
I thought Batley's big blokes were superb. Keegan Hirst and Alex Rowe especially made our defence look like an amateur team at times. Considering our front row isn't short of size in the likes of Sidlow, Tahraoui, Fleming & Lauaki, they were completely dominated too often.
Echo the idea that we were very lucky. Batley deserved more than they got out of that match.
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| Great game for the neutrals
Enjoyed the day disapointed we didnt hang on for the win but credit to the Bulls who never gave up
Bulls fans were great clapped our players off at the end, nice to see.
Good luck until we meet again
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| Our injury list is crazy right now. I count TEN players missing that could all stake a claim for being in our starting 17.
Mellor
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Uaisele
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| Quote ="Nothus"Our injury list is crazy right now. I count TEN players missing that could all stake a claim for being in our starting 17.
Mellor
Petersen
Uaisele
Purtell
Blythe
Baile
Ferguson
Addy
Walker
Davies'"
I think that shows the strength in depth we have. How many of our rival clubs who we will be battling for promotion with, could have 10 injuries and still put a strong team. Come the super 8's, our squad should still be pretty fresh.
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| Also should have added that it was really great to be at Batley, it's a cracking tight little ground, the atmosphere was brilliant - even with a sp crowd of only 2000=odd, - and the Batley team did them credit. as did their fans. I suspected these sort of fixtures would transport me back to the old days, and they do. Fev was another. Happy days, and they seemed a long way off over the last few seasons.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Our injury list is crazy right now. I count TEN players missing that could all stake a claim for being in our starting 17.
Mellor
Petersen
Uaisele
Purtell
Blythe
Baile
Ferguson
Addy
Walker
Davies'"
Addy should be nearing a return which will give us a bit more creativity in the forwards. Uaisele, Purtell and Baile have "minor" hamstring problems so not considered long term injuries.
Think Mellor took a bang on the knee at Fev? not sure about Ferguson (maybe he was rested?) and not sure on the status of Davies and Petersen? does anyone know?
Blythe is long term but should be available in the Summer and Walker....hmmm.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"Addy should be nearing a return which will give us a bit more creativity in the forwards. Uaisele, Purtell and Baile have "minor" hamstring problems so not considered long term injuries.
Think Mellor took a bang on the knee at Fev? not sure about Ferguson (maybe he was rested?) and not sure on the status of Davies and Petersen? does anyone know?
Blythe is long term but should be available in the Summer and Walker....hmmm.'"
I correct myself, it was the Whitehaven game where Mellor was injured, along with Purtell.
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| Mellor rolled his ankle against Hunslet.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"I correct myself, it was the Whitehaven game where Mellor was injured, along with Purtell.'"
Correct yourself again both were injured against Hunslet.
Regarding Uligna (or however its spelt) I heard fans playing hell about him being barrelled into touch. They were wrong he was given no room to move in by his so-called centre, to me he looks a really strong and useful addition, outside Purtell or Baille he could be very good.
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| Davies was at Batley with his leg in a protective boot type object so I would say he looks to be the furthest away from fitness. Ferguson looked to be o.k. was stood in line at one of the food outlets along with Purtell and I think Petersen. Hopefully some of them will be back soon.
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| Think Davies is long term ie, months not weeks, after his injury.
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| To be honest I think it might turn out to be an advantage if we have fresh people like Davies, Peterson and Blythe to come back in at the 'business end' of the season
We are doing just fine without them, and in effect, it could like getting three new signings when they are fit
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| Think Ferguson was a late withdrawal from squad due to illness. That's why we were able to play Ulugia despite him not being in 19 man squad.
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| It's nice to have depth for the first time in a few years. Having ten players out all at once last season, or the season before, would've crippled us. I don't think all of the players missing at Batley would definitely be straight in the team, but definitely fighting for a place.
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| Quote ="mat"Think Ferguson was a late withdrawal from squad due to illness. That's why we were able to play Ulugia despite him not being in 19 man squad.'"
I'm saying nothing.
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| just watched 'tarka the otter' AWESOME FILM
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Correct yourself again both were injured against Hunslet.
Regarding Uligna (or however its spelt) I heard fans playing hell about him being barrelled into touch. They were wrong he was given no room to move in by his so-called centre, to me he looks a really strong and useful addition, outside Purtell or Baille he could be very good.'"
I sit corrected, not used to seeing the Bulls win so many games its confusing me!
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| And i agree re Ulugia, the passes given were ridiculous he was always going into touch on both occasions.
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| I think some of the comments by our fans at times are quite baffling. One guy coming out of Batley was roundly slating ullugia and shaw as not good enough. Personally I have been impressed with both when they have played this year. Shaw is not a natural centre, but has slotted in wherever required, very similar to how Mick Withers did for many years. His kicking is an obvious bonus. Ullugia has taken his tries well which is the role of a good winger, as already alluded to alongside Baile or Purtell or Blythe he could be a very useful addition.
The only two players in the squad who have not shown much at this point for me are sjieka and Henry. Henry's attitude and general play are very poor,at batley he seemed to perform much like hape did just before his move to union, e.g disinterested. Jury still out on Sjieka but with players coming back I would suggest he needs to show something fairly quickly.
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| Unsure what we know about Henry's attitude?
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| We don't know Henry's attitude, but I think it's fair to say when you see him on the pitch, he certainly doesn't look like he's in it for the 110%. He looks like he's out there because he knows everyone else is injured and he'll be out of the side again when people are fit.
I honestly get the feeling from team selections that Jimmy doesn't rate him (friendlies especially). And from what I've seen from him, I wouldn't disagree. But you never know if that's the case, or if it's just a fitness/injury issue and we're all reading more into it than we need to.
What I can say for certain is that Ulugia going into touch when he did was not his fault. It was Adam Henry's.
As far as Ulugia goes, I thought he looked fairly poor in the friendlies and against Leigh. But in the Fev game, he did very well to come back after an early blunder, and I thought he did the best he could with a god awful centre who did nothing to help him at Batley. Showing a lot of improvement for mine.
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| Ulugia seemed to run it in strongly on Sunday, or was I just closer to action?
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| I thought he did too. He's a handful but also has a bit of skill. I'd rate him ahead of Uaisele at the moment.
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| Why do they both begin with "U" though? Is it a tax thing?
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