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| Also there maybe perhaps those that Rohan may not wished to have kept hold of but had to because of longer contracts.
Should we honour those original deals or look to bring in other players of better available?
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| If Vila gets a stay of execution i'd be amazed..
I think no matter how desperate we are we either need to use the fringe players Lowes brought in on 3 year contracts or loose them.
We can't afford to be wasting money like the good old Ferres and Lowes days, I'm sure there will be others available.
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| Question is, would we be able to forgive Tansey for '[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Gf80CVX3Mthat try[/url'?
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| Quote ="bowlingboy"If Vila gets a stay of execution i'd be amazed..
I think no matter how desperate we are we either need to use the fringe players Lowes brought in on 3 year contracts or loose them.
We can't afford to be wasting money like the good old Ferres and Lowes days, I'm sure there will be others available.'"
Well Lumb played a number of games last season and didn't look out of place. Is he now capable of a full season with minimal rotation or do we need to be aging two hookers in each game?
I don't like how the dummy half role has become in British Rugby League and I suspect with bringing Stuart Howarth last season Rohan Smith is looming for something more going forward than a dummy half runner.
Is Vila that player, is Vila up to the standard of Championship?
I don't know to either of those so I would probably try and bring in Howarth so long as we could afford him.
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| Thing is as well is contracts end early November? Maybe a few of these free agents have found work elsewhere? We don't scream secure.
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| if we have a scrum half to start the season we are already doing better than last year.
My Neighbour is Batley fan and raves about Campbell, as do a lot of their followers saying they want him back, it would be good to see him get a fair crack of the whip.
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| I don't know why but I find it quite amusing we are going into the 2017 season (if we do) with an abundance of halves (Pryce, Chisholm, Keyes, Thomas, Trueman) and no second rowers! Couldn't write that haha!
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"I don't know why but I find it quite amusing we are going into the 2017 season (if we do) with an abundance of halves (Pryce, Chisholm, Keyes, Thomas, Trueman) and no second rowers! Couldn't write that haha!'"
I hadn't thought of that, but yes if all current free agents re-sign again, that's exactly right. It's like some kind of backwards world
Remember when our only worries were Danny Addy as our best scrum half option? Oh for those days...
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I hadn't thought of that, but yes if all current free agents re-sign again, that's exactly right. It's like some kind of backwards world
Remember when our only worries were Danny Addy as our best scrum half option? Oh for those days...'"
I remember when our main concern was Marc Herbert being our best scrum half option
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| Got a feeling Rohan might experiment with Keyes at hooker.
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| I'd be happy with that in a way. Keeps a quality goal kicker on the field, gives him gametime and won't be a long term option there!
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Got a feeling Rohan might experiment with Keyes at hooker.'"
Played there for Ireland recently iirc.
Anyway let's concentrate on keeping him first
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| So, bit of positivity. Should everything go how we want and we end up as we are witht he current players in tow how would you guys like to see us line up considering the players who havent left, i'd like to see
1.Moss
2.Macani
3.Foster
4.Ryan
5.Caro
6.Pryce
7.Chisholm
8.Joseph
9.Lumb
10.Magrin
11.Burr
12.Bentley
13.Kavanagh
14.Keyes
15.Peltier
16.Kirk
17.Oakes
Face of it a reasonable side with points in the backline. I'd love to hope come season start theres the possibility of signing at least one more prop and 2 back rowers
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| Just assuming we actually have a club for a minute - this is novel.
It would be a great move if Keyes can cover hooker. As you say we'd have a goalkicker on the field and have a bit more flexibility if Rohan wants to change things around.
If some of the overseas lads need to wait for visa clearance we could need some loans (however with Chisholm apparently being an EU citizen and Moss having a UK passport (according to Bullmania) then it'd just be Burr that would be hanging around for clearance.
I could see Thomas at fullback for Moss for a period or maybe Campbell or Mendieka.
The forwards are where the real weaknesses lie. In the backrow other than Burr and Joseph we're relying on lads with a sum total of first appearances of 1 sub. Unless you put Foster back there.
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| Quote ="thepimp007"So, bit of positivity. Should everything go how we want and we end up as we are witht he current players in tow how would you guys like to see us line up considering the players who havent left, i'd like to see
1.Moss
2.Macani
3.Foster
4.Ryan
5.Caro
6.Pryce
7.Chisholm
8.Joseph
9.Lumb
10.Magrin
11.Burr
12.Bentley
13.Kavanagh
14.Keyes
15.Peltier
16.Kirk
17.Oakes
Face of it a reasonable side with points in the backline. I'd love to hope come season start theres the possibility of signing at least one more prop and 2 back rowers'"
Can't argue with that. If we keep those lads we have a fighting chance with a few loan forwards.
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| I saw the posts about Moss having a UK passport, but I've seen nothing on any of the biog sites which mention his parents/Grand parents, and as an Aussie, that's the only way it could be true so I assume Bullmania has seen some other site or has knowledge from elsewhere. Passport or not I can't imagine he's going to stay, he's far too good not to get an offer and I'd be off like a shot if I were him.
For Chissy, the same applies really, unless we get them both signed up pdq. Without both, it just makes an impossible task even more difficult.
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| Is Ryan seen as more of a centre than a winger? Lad performed real good out there last season and I was really looking forward to see him getting a full season under his belt this year considering he played a considerable amount last season.
However what will be will be and if that's where we see him long term then why not give him the chance to develop there. Certainly plenty of speed between Caro, Ryan and Macani. There's young Oakes as well who looks a strapping lad it would be pretty good if we could finish up the season with some pretty decent homegrown backs.
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Link to Moss RE passport
www.totalrl.com/gossip-bradford- ... back-moss/
I remembered at the time, he came over pretty much as soon as he was announced as we didn't have to worry about a Visa or anything. Just tried to find the article to back up my claim. But if you remember when we signed him, we never had to wait for a visa.
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www.totalrl.com/gossip-bradford- ... back-moss/
I remembered at the time, he came over pretty much as soon as he was announced as we didn't have to worry about a Visa or anything. Just tried to find the article to back up my claim. But if you remember when we signed him, we never had to wait for a visa.
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| My Team (for the time being):
1. Moss
2. Caro
3. Oakes
4. Ryan
5. Macani
6. Pryce
7. Chisholm
8. Kavanagh
9. Lumb
10. Joseph
11. Burr
12. Foster
13. Bentley
14. Keyes
15. Peltier
16. Magrin
17. Kirk
Thomas, Mendieka, Campbell, Trueman, Halafihi and Rickett being rotations.
Foster to the pack as I feel like having him in the centres leaves our pack too lightweight for my liking, having him at second-row sures this up a bit. Never thought I'd say this as long as I supported Bradford but we need Props and Second Rowers haha!
Bit depressing compared the the team we had 8 weeks ago.......
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| I'd also look at getting Harvey Livett on loan from Warrington. Loose Forward and got MOM in Warrington's friendly. Could do him some good getting some gametime at Champ level! Also wouldn't mind seeing Benjamin Jullien (centre) come on loan to us from Uncle Tony in order to move Foster to the pack.
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| Moss having a British passport means the visa issue may just apply to Lachlan Burr.
Mick, Ethan Ryan did play a lot of centre for the 19s. I think he’s just served his apprenticeship on the wing in the first team, a bit like Leon did 17 years ago!
We look ok for backs IMO. Unless we lose a load more players.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Can't argue with that. If we keep those lads we have a fighting chance with a few loan forwards.'"
Id even be tempted to stick oakes in the centre and foster in the back row with bentley to the bench to spell him. Solid base for me someone like a Philbin on loan would be ideal. Kavanagh really impressed me at 13 against New Zealand and played big minutes. I'd even be tempted to look at Bailey for 12 months if finances allow
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| It's not a 'load' of players I'm really worried about, tbh I don't think we will lose a lot more as most clubs are done recruiting now. So the ones we'll probably lose are the ones clubs feel are worth a bit more, that is the better ones.
Once we lose, say Chisholm, Moss, maybe Kavanagh, then we're looking pretty much a mid-table championship side, a mid table championship side with a 12 point deficit and only 23 games to make anything up [and 3 of them against HKR.
I'd agree the threequarters look good. There is no lack of skill there, but on the debit side some are very young and lacking open age experience and this is a very hard nosed, physical league. I think it might be a little unfair to expect some of them to be the 'frontline' players, duty of care and all that.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"It's not a 'load' of players I'm really worried about, tbh I don't think we will lose a lot more as most clubs are done recruiting now. So the ones we'll probably lose are the ones clubs feel are worth a bit more, that is the better ones.
Once we lose, say Chisholm, Moss, maybe Kavanagh, then we're looking pretty much a mid-table championship side, a mid table championship side with a 12 point deficit and only 23 games to make anything up [and 3 of them against HKR.
I'd agree the threequarters look good. There is no lack of skill there, but on the debit side some are very young and lacking open age experience and this is a very hard nosed, physical league. I think it might be a little unfair to expect some of them to be the 'frontline' players, duty of care and all that.'"
thats my positivity gone in that bold writing
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