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| Quote ="dixie"Plus our big mid-season signing that year was Morley, a then world class forward.'"
After watching Morley demolish Wigan the other night I would say he is probably still the most destructive forward in SL.
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| Quote ="neilo86"No he didnt. 2005 was when he arrived.'" Yep Brain fart.
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| Quote ="dixie"No mate.. This year they just aren't good enoug. In 2005 injuries were bad at start of season but i think most fans knew we had a good squad capable of causing damage in the playoffs. This year it's still a question if we will get into the playoffs.
Plus our big mid-season signing that year was Morley, a then world class forward.'" I wouldn't call Morley a mid-season signing he only played in 5 games.
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| Quote ="redeverready"I wouldn't call Morley a mid-season signing he only played in 5 games.'"
Yeah.. I was thinking that.. but i wouldn't call Ben Harris a 2004 signing either.
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| Quote ="redeverready"I wouldn't call Morley a mid-season signing he only played in 5 games.'"
And he did very little in them. We would have been better keeping Lynch in the side.
The signing that got us going that season was Hendo.
Back to this season, I do think we need a signing to get us going again, Rinaldi has done fine, but I do think we need to freshen the competition in the backs
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| Quote ="silsdenbull"And he did very little in them. We would have been better keeping Lynch in the side.'"
Although I think Morley didn't make that much of an impact, a couple of big runs at OT aside, how exactly would we have been better? We went on a long winning run and won the title did we not?
Lynch was also a different player the next season, reacting the right way to what happened and kicking on.
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| Quote ="Asim"Although I think Morley didn't make that much of an impact, a couple of big runs at OT aside, how exactly would we have been better? '"
Financially?
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| Quote ="silsdenbull"And he did very little in them. We would have been better keeping Lynch in the side.
The signing that got us going that season was Hendo.
Back to this season, I do think we need a signing to get us going again, Rinaldi has done fine, but I do think we need to freshen the competition in the backs'"
Bringing new people in would be good. Unfortunately fitting them under the cap may pose a problem!
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Bringing new people in would be good. Unfortunately fitting them under the cap may pose a problem!'" Greg Bird wouldn't have been coming cheap.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Greg Bird wouldn't have been coming cheap.'"
Indeed.
I don't know if we could get Rinaldi and someone else into the squad though.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Indeed.
I don't know if we could get Rinaldi and someone else into the squad though.
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Tupou out and Bird not signed = Rinaldi in? Surely not.
The problem is finding someone available at this point, and then them wanting to come here.
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| Quote ="Asim"Tupou out and Bird not signed = Rinaldi in? Surely not.
The problem is finding someone available at this point, and then them wanting to come here.'"
And Peter Hood said, at the start of the year, that we had cap space available should someone be available. From that and the outgoing Toupu we must have space for at least 2 players. Rinaldi's deal being only short term means we are flexible so if better options become available we don't retain him beyond the 2 months but I'd be ok with extending his deal to the end of the season pending a fuller review of the squad.
Making any major singing now has risks as anyone available is normally damaged goods in some way or not deemed worthy at their current club and for every Hendo that works out there's a Tupou who doesn't.
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| Quote ="Asim"Tupou out and Bird not signed = Rinaldi in? Surely not.
The problem is finding someone available at this point, and then them wanting to come here.'"
That's always the problem mid season
Is Tupou's salary not paid to him then under this ruling?
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"Making any major singing now has risks as anyone available is normally damaged goods in some way or not deemed worthy at their current club and for every Hendo that works out there's a Tupou who doesn't.'"
Indeed, that's a point I made when others were coming out with the "we are saving money for a mid-season signing if we need it".
Unless you've got money for a transfer fee, or an eye for some decent talent languishing in a NRL reserve grade, you are probably left looking at a drunk, wife-beater or some other deviant.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"That's always the problem mid season
Is Tupou's salary not paid to him then under this ruling?'" He was paid his two weeks notice.
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| Quote ="Asim"Indeed, that's a point I made when others were coming out with the "we are saving money for a mid-season signing if we need it".
Unless you've got money for a transfer fee, or an eye for some decent talent languishing in a NRL reserve grade, you are probably left looking at a drunk, wife-beater or some other deviant.'"
or you take a risk that someone playing at a lower level can step up but they are all risky signings.
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| Quote ="Asim"Indeed, that's a point I made when others were coming out with the "we are saving money for a mid-season signing if we need it".
Unless you've got money for a transfer fee, or an eye for some decent talent languishing in a NRL reserve grade, you are probably left looking at a drunk, wife-beater or some other deviant.'" Ben Harris didn't fit in to any of those.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Ben Harris didn't fit in to any of those.'"
Can't remember the exact circumstances (homesick girlfriend?) but the few exceptions usually prove the rules!
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| Quote ="silsdenbull"In 2005, we started the season terribly (obviously never sinking as low as we have this time). Our fantastic and loyal fans spent there time whingeing the coach must go.
It has been widely documented that in 2005 the llayers felt that because so many key players where out of contract at the end of the year, it bred an uncertainty which caused our poor form.
At the end of this season we have the below players out of contract:
[list3. Paul Sykes "HOME GROWN" 2009
5. Semi Tadulala OVERSEAS TRAINED 2009
6. Ben Jeffries OVERSEAS TRAINED 2009
9. Terry Newton 2009
10. Andy Lynch 2009
11. Steve Menzies OVERSEAS TRAINED 2009
12. Glenn Morrison (vc) OVERSEAS TRAINED 2009
15. Matt Cook "HOME GROWN" 2009
20. Dave Halley "HOME GROWN" 2009
22. Matt James "HOME GROWN" 2009
24. Julien Rinaldi OVERSEAS TRAINED June 2009
26. David Solomona OVERSEAS TRAINED 2009
30. James Donaldson "HOME GROWN" 2009
32. Duane Straugheir "HOME GROWN" 2009 [/list:u
We have not yet announced if any of them will be retained. We have not yet announced any new signings (although we usually don't until end of season anyway).
The best way to sort the mess of this season out?
Follow the example of 2005:
[list1. Make a signing or two, we brought in Hendo and Ben Harris and it rejuvanated the side for the run in - start by keeping Rinaldi
2. Make it clear to the players who is staying and who is going
3. Announce that some of our out of contract players have agreed to stay to lift the mood amongst the fans
4. Dangle the carrot of a big name for next season (just like we did by announcing McKenna and Bai
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5. Extend the coaches contract - we did it with Nobby, so lets repeat it with Macca[/list:u
Changing the coach will only bring more uncertainty into our situation, and the lift for one or two games when a new coach arrives, will not improve any of the above points anyway.'"
That is alot of players
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| Yeah lets sign up Solomona the man who may never be fit to play AGAIN ever and who landed us with a £75,000 bill for blocking a toilet
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| Quote ="silsdenbull"
5. Extend the coaches contract - we did it with Nobby, so lets repeat it with Macca
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A well thought out post, completely spoiled by this gem.
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"Yeah lets sign up Solomona the man who may never be fit to play AGAIN ever and who landed us with a £75,000 bill for blocking a toilet
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he also cost us in the region of £90000 AND Brett Ferres.
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| I like the topic starters optimism however there's little similarity. Also remember belief was still there from the '04 GF appearance. You have declined for a few years now and that shatters confidence and belief from both fans and players.
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| Straugheir hasnt even been spoken to yet about a new contract, why leave it late to look at contracts surely they know who they want by now, they should do decent thing and tell players who they are keeping or letting go so that they can sort summat else out, it would at least put the players mind at rest if they had another club lined up.
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