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| Quote ="Asim"It's not all bad though, our homegrown winger is riding high in the SL try-scoring charts.
Oh.'" Indeed. Halley has more tries himself this season than our entire team have managed thus far.
What a joke.
(ok, I realise I am not entitled to an opinion cos I was not at the game but I assume it is ok to deal with facts? )
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| Where have the backs gone
That game was dire, it was there for the taking and we couldn't do it, I'm sure the excuse will come out we've had a week off. Enough is enough I want to see a change this isn't this week or this season, it was here and has been for a good while, time for a clean sweep me thinks
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Indeed. Halley has more tries himself this season than our entire team have managed thus far.
What a joke.
(ok, I realise I am not entitled to an opinion cos I was not at the game but I assume it is ok to deal with facts? )'"
Some might say that such facts make the man who made such a decision look like a, erm, banana.
But I couldn't possibly comment.
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| Quote ="Asim"Some might say that such facts make the man who made such a decision look like a, erm, banana.
But I couldn't possibly comment.'"
I am sure you can. You were at the game right?
(incidentally, I wonder where his fan club are tonight? )
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"What was the penalty count this evening?
No idea but seen as the fat scouse scum bag had us marching back 20 metres at the play the ball and the giants scored their first try after the fat scouser waved the tackle count (which was a disgracefully bad decision) the giants did pretty well out of the ref.
And do you think maybe Huddersfield are a better side than you give them credit for?
No they are awful to loose to a team that bad at home really is the end of Macnamara. I have pretty much been someone that has been classed as a big macca supporter but after tonight that is no more. He has to go. That was crap. The giants should not make the play offs they really are terrible. So to lose to a team that bad at home is simply unacceptable as the thread title aplies enough is enough.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Well I've argued on his side but to lose to a team that bad really I can't stick up for him any more.'"
Why don't you say it again I don't think we understand what you're trying to say!!
But it sure sounds like some very large sour grapes.
Think you need to cut back on the alcohol and get a good nights sleep, things won't look as bad in the morning and you might just realise that you were beaten by a good side.
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| Quote Bradford coach Steve McNamara:
"We had some disruptions throughout the game which threw us off track a bit but we needed to do a bit better to win it.
"They tried very, very hard. I can't fault the effort at all. We still look a bit rusty offensively but I'm very very confident and optimistic about the season." '"
Disappointing result. Defence seems to be OK, attack extremely blunt. Saints losing at home to Hull KR suggests that no side has a right to expect to win games like these any more.
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| Deacon and Jeffries are pants together. Newton and Godwin don't even make an aging Jimmy Lowes with a busted knee between them. We don't even have a Loose Forward. Why when we are 3 yards from the try line do we pass the ball 20 yards backwards to someone stood still? Lowes would have had someone over the try line every time with the Forwards we have. Menzies is too old to play 80 mins and we spend too much time moaning at the Referee. Oh and I forgot about Solo and Tupou, they must be laughing their socks off getting paid to do bugger all.
On the bright side Cook, Koppy, James, Scruton, Nero, Menzies, Morisson, Tadulala and Sheriffe played well. Burgess seemed to be a bit quiet.
Macca is making the squad worse week on week. We are playing far too deep, don't get a quick play of the ball and don't know how to slow the other team down. All this means the opposition get quick play of the ball while slowing us down while reading the ref better than we do.
What also scares me is that we have nobody ready to replace the aging dead wood and will probably end the season having to get rid of Menzies, Morro, Newton, Solo, Tupou, Deacon and Jeffries. May have missed someone out but can;t think who! Oh Macca if he hasn't gone by next week
Taxi for Macca.
We need a coach who commands respect ASAP. Either an Aussie or maybe Cullen? Nobody could be worse as we seem devoid of ideas.
Rant over but still very disappointed. Things can only get better!? Unless they get worse first!!!!
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| Well that was terrible, wasn't it? I have never seen such an uncommited bunch of individuals in the whole of my life watching rugby league. I have seen some cracking teams up at Odsal and some not so cracking teams. Most have generally given up an awful lot of effort. But I'm afraid the same can not be said for this team. Steve McNamara's time as head coach of the Bulls surley must be drawing close to an end. He just doesn't seem to be able to get things right, and when things are going badly he doesn't seem to know how to correct them. I know people said Noble's team didn't have a plan B, but what they did do was execute a Plan A to perfection, in 50% of the games I have seen since Steve McNamara was appointed head coach we seem not to even have a plan A or a game plan at all.
I hope we can start to bring things together but I am wary that we will hear a number of very similar things said by staff and players to the media and yet again we will still see the same inconsistent to poor performances that we have over the past 24 months. It's not good to be a pessimist but I fear that things will not improve unless there is a huge overhaul in coaching staff and coaching systems at Bradford Bulls.
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| I disagree with Macca's after match comments. We didn't look rusty in attack.. we looked completely clueless and lacking any sort of leadership. The forwards are doing their bit but our half backs/hooker are woefully bad I'm afraid. Probably the most disappointing thing about tonight was the similarity to the Hull KR game. What have we been working on for the last two weeks? We saw the same big effort in defence from a few and Morrison was once again our most dangerous player.
I'm glad McNamara is confident, perhaps he could pass some of it onto Jeffries and Platt who look frightened to even touch the ball. Very disappointing tonight I'm afraid and it will do nothing to help our crowds after two very classless performances.
We need drastic improvement on that performance and it needs to happen in the next couple of months otherwise we should be planning for 2010 with a fresh approach.
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| Quote ="af"Saints losing at home to Hull KR suggests that no side has a right to expect to win games like these any more.'" i wondered how long it was gonna take for this reasoning to surface!
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| Quote ="af"Disappointing result. Defence seems to be OK, attack extremely blunt. Saints losing at home to Hull KR suggests that no side has a right to expect to win games like these any more.'" No it doesn't Huddersfield were continually winning the collision and I lost count the number of times they pushed through the line. IMO there was more chance of Huddersfield winning by a greater margin than us winning which is the hardest pill to swallow.
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| Quote ="martin @ bulls"Well that was terrible, wasn't it? I have never seen such an uncommited bunch of individuals in the whole of my life watching rugby league.'"
Cannot agree with that I'm afraid. We were a lot of things today but lacking effort isn't one of them IMO. For me the game was won by Huddersfield simply by the amount of players they got into the tackle. Each time they often had around 4 players on top of ours meaning much slower play the balls. The Bulls on the other hand put in some eye catching big hits but failed to control the speed of the ruck. Far too often the Hudds players were landing on their fronts and playing the ball whilst our defenders were still getting off the deck. It is something we need to sort immediately if we expect to have a chance of beating anyone!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Cannot agree with that I'm afraid. We were a lot of things today but lacking effort isn't one of them IMO. For me the game was won by Huddersfield simply by the amount of players they got into the tackle. Each time they often had around 4 players on top of ours meaning much slower play the balls. The Bulls on the other hand put in some eye catching big hits but failed to control the speed of the ruck. Far too often the Hudds players were landing on their fronts and playing the ball whilst our defenders were still getting off the deck. It is something we need to sort immediately if we expect to have a chance of beating anyone!'"
We were drastically lacking effort the same as we were drastically lacking commitment. There was very little commitment from the boys to each other to go out and win the game of rugby. Like you say, Hudds got numbers in the tackle, this shows that they were commited to winning the game. When the going got tough, very few of our players showed the effort or commitment. This is very bad.
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| Quote ="martin @ bulls"We were drastically lacking effort the same as we were drastically lacking commitment. There was very little commitment from the boys to each other to go out and win the game of rugby. Like you say, Hudds got numbers in the tackle, this shows that they were commited to winning the game. When the going got tough, very few of our players showed the effort or commitment. This is very bad.'" Your not from Hull by any chance.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Your not from Hull by any chance.'"
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| I went to the game as a neutral and thought Huddersfield were outstanding - bags of enthusiasm with Luke Robinson epitomising the teams attitude.
Bradford looked too big and strong in the first 20 minutes but seemed to be lacking in the halves to me and then the performance definitely began to fade. Once Deacon went off things went from bad to worse.
With great forwards like Menzies, Morrison and Burgess the Bulls had loads of go forward. As soon as the ball went out to the backs the Giants defence looked realy comfortable and hardly ever threatened.
In my opinion the Bulls desperately need a creative stand off and maybe things will improve quickly.
As a neutral I thought that Steve Ganson handled the game well and I can't recall any bad decisions to be honest.
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| It was dire. Again. 2 home games. 1 pt. No idea. No spark. Good defence. But I think we could camp on the oppositions try line for 80 mins and not score. I fear for us when we play Saints, Leeds, etc.
Without Morrison we would have lost by 40.
We can blame the ref if we like (yes the Hudds try was a mile forwards, etc) but that would hide our absolute deficiencies. FFS we couldnt even catch the ball from the kick off. What 4, 5 times we let it bounce? Painful. Im not sure I've ever been quite as depressed after a Bulls performance.
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| Very, Very dissappointed tonight. Take too long to itemise the bulls deficiences, though much was lacking in any semblance of game plan or attacking structure.
Huddersfield were not exceptional but stuck to a simple game plan and executed it efficiently as a team. Mob tackle the ball carrier and stop offloads. Quickly upto the tackle area. Pace and urgency from their own play the ball. Supporting the ball carrier.
Whilst I never considered Macca a tactical genius or extraordinary man-manager I did hope that he could kick on from some rather insipid performances last year.
He has not and this is a huge concern.
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| Quote ="debaser"It was dire. Again. 2 home games. 1 pt. No idea. No spark. Good defence. But I think we could camp on the oppositions try line for 80 mins and not score. I fear for us when we play Saints, Leeds, etc.
Without Morrison we would have lost by 40.
We can blame the ref if we like (yes the Hudds try was a mile forwards, etc) but that would hide our absolute deficiencies. FFS we couldnt even catch the ball from the kick off. What 4, 5 times we let it bounce? Painful. Im not sure I've ever been quite as depressed after a Bulls performance.'" Sorry but how do you come up with good defence
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| Unfortunately it seems that the side is suffering the same problems that it has over the last 2 seasons, and no doubt they will get the same old response, with the same old result at the end of it.
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| Quote ="Asim"Unfortunately it seems that the side is suffering the same problems that it has over the last 2 seasons, and no doubt they will get the same old response, with the same old result at the end of it.'" Just the point I made in the very first post. We are no further along as a team than we were in 20076 in some respects we've gone backwards.
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| Quote ="debaser"It was dire. Again. 2 home games. 1 pt. No idea. No spark. Good defence. But I think we could camp on the oppositions try line for 80 mins and not score. I fear for us when we play Saints, Leeds, etc.
Without Morrison we would have lost by 40.
We can blame the ref if we like (yes the Hudds try was a mile forwards, etc) but that would hide our absolute deficiencies. FFS we couldnt even catch the ball from the kick off. What 4, 5 times we let it bounce? Painful. Im not sure I've ever been quite as depressed after a Bulls performance.'"
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