Because we aren't supporting them how, exactly?




PS How does sport work? I've often wondered that.

Unless there is significant changes to the cap that will allow Leigh, Fev, Fax to be full time, I can't see them getting promoted. I would love them to get promoted, I have always wanted promotion and relegation. But personally I cannot see it.

In reply to Starbug, the only people to come out with any credit from Bulls fiasco the last few years are the Bulls fans. They have stuck by their club through thick and thin. We have applauded our team off countless times when we have been mullered. However it's the lack of effort from the team that is really hurting the fans at the moment!

Anyway Starbug, some saints fans are wanting Brown out and they're top of the league!! I think we're quite patient myself

Sport and RL in particular unlike any other ' normal ' proffession requires massive physical effort combined with highly technical skill, all produced with somebody else doing their best to stop you, again both physically and technically, so to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous, to do so would be risking serious injury, not forgetting the immense pressure of financial and loyalty impossed by playing for a club that only exists due to its fan base

If your club ever becomes a farm club to Leeds then you'll know what a real storm is.And if your a real fan and a real bradfordian you'll know what real pain is.
It makes you physically sick when you read some of the shiit people write to try to justify it

Then Cummins himself is ridiculous, as he has said just that, for example re the Catalans debacle:



You are strangely looking at the game through rose tinted glasses. Your suggestion that no player in SL ever lacks effort in any game is simplistic, naive and simply not borne out by the evidence of our own eyes.

There seems to no belief in the team. It was nearly half time, when I think it was maybe embarrassment that took over, before too many in a Bulls' shirt actually ran or tackled with much conviction. Then we got the panicky, must score from every play, sort of moves which always end in finding some way to turn over the ball.

I try to be optimistic but it's getting really hard and I have to say it isn't just the team who have given up on staying in SL. SL is over for now but I'm sure we'll get back someday, things tend to go in circles..

Don't panic, your playing us next week.

Also I dont think enough credit has been given to the Devils who at last seem to be bonding under Iestyn Harris. Bulls could well beat HKR next week as we drew with them when not firing at all.

Yes, come on over and help yourself to two points. And improve your points difference.

Don't be so silly. Unless of course they do turn up next week, when we are playing them on Friday.

Anyone who has played sport or RL in particular, whether amateur or pro, knows when they or another player has not put in 100%. I generally tried very hard, some times harder than the week before. To compare the Wigan youngsters effort to some of the Bulls' performances is laughable.

Just out of interest, if there is anyone else to second Starbug's proposition that no pro RL player ever lacks effort, in any game?

I have a curious feeling FC will be sacked today.

Noible "The Saviour" in situe for the Hull KR game this Friday?

I see Koukash has announced the signing of Dobson for next season.

Added to Locke and Jones-Bishop it couldn't illustrate more perfectly the division between our two clubs.

It's galling to think that if Mandy Koukash has succeeded in her bid, then it could be us signing the likes of Dobson - instead we'll be scratching around trying to put together a competitive squad for the lower league from the wreckage of this years squad and whatever is left around once the bigger clubs have signed who they want....

Can't say I am overly impressed with the WINNING BIDDER up to press.We have just accelerated our mediocrity to a sure fire relegation.No fight,blood,sweat or tears-----Zilch.
If I was in charge,sackings would already be made,get the NEW GUYS in place and SEND a CLEAR message out the few fans we have left---WE ARE GOING STRAIGHT BACK UP.
Stay as we are---no ticket sales----very few fans.
Maybe that's too easy?

FFS DO SOMETHING!!!!

I have the same feeling... if not today, before the weekend. If he reaches the weekend, loss to KR would have to be the final nail in the coffin... if there is any room for another nail.

I feel for the guy I really do and I am certainly not saying its all his fault BUT a change is desperately needed and as much as we would like to change most of the team.... that isn't going to happen.

Tough on Franny, he really has been hung to dry in some respects but I strongly feel he is incapable for firing a rocket up their s!!! mainly due to the fact he will feel sorry for them after all the uncertainty. If he had come in without all the drama who knows... but I like many others have accepted he is not the coach we need in this situation and the best thing would be that he realises this now and part company.

Thank you for your efforts and best of luck with the future kind of message.

he wasn't that type of player and he isn't that type of coach.

His captain, Diskin, is though. I'm pretty sure he would be the "bad cop" to Franny's "good cop" in the team.

There is a rumour on Twitter to this effect. I'm really sorry for you guys. Hope things get turned round quickly.

He can't last any longer can he! His comments in the press after yet another debacle yesterday said "I can't motivate this squad" would be construed as a resignation letter elsewhere. Nice guy, out of his depth!! To rescue this club the board needs to send an encouraging message for next season, understandably no new signings yet, given we haven't known what league we'd be in, hence the best message would be about a leader we could all sign up to believe and follow. I have missed more games this year through not being bothered trying to rearrange other commitments than in 45 years before and are clearly not the only one. Things need to change soon!!!

Lottery numbers are 4, 11, 12, 28, 30, 32

Nooooooooo! Don't share. Win it yourself, buy the club, pour your winnings into Odsal. You didn't want to be rich anyway did you?

Pumpetypump wrote:

Lottery numbers are 4, 11, 12, 28, 30, 32



Doh, I thought that was the starting pack shirt numbers for HKR game.

Nah... Only 1 player from the backs in there!

My lotto numbers this week will be-

3- how many owners we have had in the last 12 months
5- how many seasons we have missed out on the play offs to date
9- years ago since we won the league
12- points deducted
27- games we have won in 2012/2013/2014- to date.
39- games we have lost in 2012/2013/2014- to date.

Got to turn this into a positive somehow