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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Can I just ask a question about Caisley's comments. Who the hell is Duncan Preston?'"
Google is your friend!
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| MPs now getting involved writing to RBS asking to extend our overdraft, this is quickly turning into a 3 ring feckin circus
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| If we get any more injuries/suspensions, Mr Preston's love for the club will result in him donning a shirt!
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Can I just ask a question about Caisley's comments. Who the hell is Duncan Preston?'"
Usually sits with the Directors in the main stand.
Not seen him this year,suspect he,s touring with some production or other.
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| Quote ="tikkabulls"Usually sits with the Directors in the main stand.
Not seen him this year,suspect he,s touring with some production or other.'"
Googled him. Yep I know who he is.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"...is the right answer.'"
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Really?'"
If its a choice between having a club to support - hopefully for the long term, but with a wassock of a chairman, or no club because we could not agree which wassock was the least awful, then yes - surely?
And most fans anyway (not RAB-folk, obviously) will hardly care which wassock is in charge (since they usually regard the chairman and his board as wassocks anyway?) as long as there is SOMEONE in charge to blame and moan about?
And if - as I do - you continue to believe that any period of administration presents threats too serious to risk, then you'd support the strategy that seeks to preserve the going concern? But not take your bat home if that failed?
That does not mean you have to LIKE the alternatives on offer as Chairman. As it happens, I would not wish for either if a better alternative - any alternative - was to manifest himself. Maybe one WILL should Mr Caisley, having had his revenge, then decided to sell his holding? But I'd not stop supporting the Bulls simply because of the wassock in charge, unless something outrageous happened. And neither I think would most fans? Which I think is the point Bulliac was making?
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| I accept everything that everyone has said in the negative about both Peter Hood and Chris Caisley - definitely rock and hard place - BUT two things rattle around in my consciousness: (1) Caisley brought in Peter Fox (and at the time I was very dubious about the decision) - something which got us into SL in the first place and without which we would never have had the glory days; and (2) Hood made what I believe was the most disastrous decision ever (yes, even worse than the Harris episode) when he stuck by McNamara who, despite being a very nice person, had so very clearly been promoted beyond his competence. That decision was beyond incompetent - it was shortsighted and stupid. I believe this because even with the disastrous Harris situation, with good results and play off opportunities we could have maintained our fan base and sponsorship and therefore had the means to try to get back in the black. With a weak squad, poor results and an inevitable slide over 4 years it was clear we were going to be in an even worse financial situation. So, my personal rock and hard place will probably land me in the CC camp by a whisker simpy on the basis of those two outcomes.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"If its a choice between having a club to support - hopefully for the long term, but with a wassock of a chairman, or no club because we could not agree which wassock was the least awful, then yes - surely?
And most fans anyway (not RAB-folk, obviously) will hardly care which wassock is in charge (since they usually regard the chairman and his board as wassocks anyway?) as long as there is SOMEONE in charge to blame and moan about?
And if - as I do - you continue to believe that any period of administration presents threats too serious to risk, then you'd support the strategy that seeks to preserve the going concern? But not take your bat home if that failed?
That does not mean you have to LIKE the alternatives on offer as Chairman. As it happens, I would not wish for either if a better alternative - any alternative - was to manifest himself. Maybe one WILL should Mr Caisley, having had his revenge, then decided to sell his holding? But I'd not stop supporting the Bulls simply because of the wassock in charge, unless something outrageous happened. And neither I think would most fans? Which I think is the point Bulliac was making?'"
I disagree. I haven't spoken to a single person who doesn't see the connect between the ownership/management of the club and the supposedly genuine possibility that tomorrow night could be the club's last ever home game. Lots of posters disagree with my take on matters but not too many hold the groundsman responsible. It's absurd to suggest it's the interest of a few obsessives. I think pretty much every single person/poster is discussing this with reference to who owns or is chairman of the club as it's patently obvious this is the key factor not only in our present predicament but any hope we have of competing in the future.
Anyway as I argued for action from the shareholders and this is what appears to have ocurred whether CC is my cup of tea or not, I have pledged. What a sucker!
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| Ohhh........
After highly stressful day at work - this
I really don't know enough about the ramifications and politics of the situation whether Caisley is the answer - but unless there's something I missed does this consortium have significantly more money than the present regime - not to my knowledge so we still have the invisible plans which we have to trust even though we have no details.
I just want my club to survive with a future I can be confident about and to be competitive - with a chance of winning most games we play - we haven't for too many years. Ideally in Super League but if in another league so be it! Oh - and to stop being the laughing stock/sympathy bucket for the rest of the rugby league.
On another comment noticed someone commented on Hood's mistake of keeping MacNamara in role for too long - that is clearly the case when we consider that Sykes was one of the highest paid at the club - is it any wonder we're in the mess we are!
Really not looking forward to tomorrow and the weekend!
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| Can't make the auction tonight - is someone going to keep a tally of succesful pledges from the event?
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"Ohhh........
After highly stressful day at work - this
I really don't know enough about the ramifications and politics of the situation whether Caisley is the answer - but unless there's something I missed does this consortium have significantly more money than the present regime - not to my knowledge so we still have the invisible plans which we have to trust even though we have no details.
I just want my club to survive with a future I can be confident about and to be competitive - with a chance of winning most games we play - we haven't for too many years. Ideally in Super League but if in another league so be it! Oh - and to stop being the laughing stock/sympathy bucket for the rest of the rugby league.
On another comment noticed someone commented on Hood's mistake of keeping MacNamara in role for too long - that is clearly the case when we consider that Sykes was one of the highest paid at the club - is it any wonder we're in the mess we are!
Really not looking forward to tomorrow and the weekend!'"
mcnamara didnt give sykes his current deal. potter approved it.
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| Quote ="mat"mcnamara didnt give sykes his current deal. potter approved it.'"
Really!!!! Apologies but quite surprised, amazed, disappointed plus every other emotion you can think of!!
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It was clearly stated at the subsequent Fan Forum - by Peter Hood - that Mick Potter had OK'd the deal.
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It was clearly stated at the subsequent Fan Forum - by Peter Hood - that Mick Potter had OK'd the deal.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"It was clearly stated at the subsequent Fan Forum - by Peter Hood - that Mick Potter had OK'd the deal.'"
And you believe Peter Hood?
Did Mick Potter say he'd OK'd it?
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| Quote It was clearly stated at the subsequent Fan Forum - by Peter Hood - that Mick Potter had OK'd the deal.'"
Really, we're believing that are we? I'm not sure I believe anything I hear from anyone anymore!
Lord spare us from Chairmen past and present
Question - Can a club run as a co-operative, comrades?
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"It was clearly stated at the subsequent Fan Forum - by Peter Hood - that Mick Potter had OK'd the deal.'"
Mr Hood has stated a lot of things at fans forums which have been shown not to be correct.
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| Yeah OK we get the point - you all think Pete Hood is a pathological liar
I was only reporting what was said at the time, and I certainly don't recall anybody suggesting at that time that there was any doubt over the comment.
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| Moving away from Paul Sykes....
It was reported in the T&A that Peter Hood was going to reply to Chris Caisley's comments today. But there has been nothing said, so far as I can see.....nothing on the Bulls website or T&A site
Another PR mess up by the current board?
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Yeah OK we get the point - you all think Pete Hood is a pathological liar
I was only reporting what was said at the time, and I certainly don't recall anybody suggesting at that time that there was any doubt over the comment.'"
The comment wasn't said at the time. It was said at the forum which came much later in the year.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Moving away from Paul Sykes....
It was reported in the T&A that Peter Hood was going to reply to Chris Caisley's comments today. But there has been nothing said, so far as I can see.....nothing on the Bulls website or T&A site
Another PR mess up by the current board?
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I've been thinking the same thing for most of the day.
Wonder what Mr Hood is cooking up in preparation for tomorrow?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I was not aware that Mr Caisley having apparently sought to wind up the club he professes to love was in the public domain?
That was why I specifically made no mention of it in anything I have posted hitherto.
But I was aware of it. And would very much have liked to have been able to say it, especially in the context of unexpected additional cash outflows that may or may not have contributed to the current situation.'"
Well, I dunno how much of it was true, but I was told a story when Caisley stepped down as chairman in 2006 that he knew the Harris thing was going to bite us in the bum and that the club was pretty much heading to where we now find it. So Caisley's big plan was to let the club fall over, have the debts cleared and come riding back in on his white horse and save the day.
However, it would seem that the currently maligned board managed to bail out the titanic with teacups. At least for a few years. It's just an unfortunate turn of events which has lead us to the current sorry state we find the club in.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Well, I dunno how much of it was true, but I was told a story when Caisley stepped down as chairman in 2006 that he knew the Harris thing was going to bite us in the bum and that the club was pretty much heading to where we now find it. So Caisley's big plan was to let the club fall over, have the debts cleared and come riding back in on his white horse and save the day.
However, it would seem that the currently maligned board managed to bail out the titanic with teacups. At least for a few years. It's just an unfortunate turn of events which has lead us to the current sorry state we find the club in.'"
I think this is quite near to the truth.
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