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| If only you would have all listened you wouldnt have this now, you have no idea what badly done to means.
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| Why have we been deducted points when we hvent come out of administration?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Are you seriously thinking you've been badly done to'"
Absolutely, 3 punishments of a greater impact than others single one would seem clear evidence wouldn't they?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Why have we been deducted points when we hvent come out of administration?'"
Because the RFL know who is going to buy and the terms! That's the only rationale. If they hadn't docked the points when they rejected BB2014, you could argue otherwise.
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"Absolutely, 3 punishments of a greater impact than others single one would seem clear evidence wouldn't they?'"
Why do I feel we're about to crash into an unfunny version of the 4 Yorkshiremen sketch?
Well we 'ad it tough. Our club got docked 3,000,000 points, had to sew their own kits from scratch, play the rest of the league all day every day with only 4 players AND pay RFL for permission to play in their league and at end o'the day we had to lick Blake Solly clean wi' our tongues
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Why do I feel we're about to crash into an unfunny version of the 4 Yorkshiremen sketch?
Well we 'ad it tough. Our club got docked 3,000,000 points, had to sew their own kits from scratch, play the rest of the league all day every day with only 4 players AND pay RFL for permission to play in their league and at end o'the day we had to lick Blake Solly clean wi' our tongues'"
1st thing today about the Bulls that made me smile
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Are you seriously thinking you've been badly done to'"
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| Why don't we sell or loan all of our players to Wakey. Their ground is poor so we can also let them play at Odsal. As a further help we could loan them our kit so it saves them some money. That is probably the only way we will see "our" team playing there in the future.
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| get a life lads n lasses, nobody complained when we had to sell the likes of Tim Smith, Ben Cockayne, Justin Poore and Kyle Amour!! all top quality players we did it to prevent going into admin, you havent and until recently kept the majority of your squad inatct ( cheating) now you are in admin you complain, we have had it, get real, i for one am enjoying it as you did when misfortune grabbed hold of us
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Why have we been deducted points when we hvent come out of administration?'" you get points deduction for going into administration
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| Quote ="Batleycat"get a life lads n lasses, nobody complained when we had to sell the likes of Tim Smith, Ben Cockayne, Justin Poore and Kyle Amour!! all top quality players we did it to prevent going into admin, you havent and until recently kept the majority of your squad inatct ( cheating) now you are in admin you complain, we have had it, get real, i for one am enjoying it as you did when misfortune grabbed hold of us'"
Please explain HOW it's cheating. Poor planning and poor budgeting is not cheating. We've not broken the salary cap, which given that your argument suggests that wages are where we're cheating, means that we've not cheated.
And you didn't complain when you had to sell players? Yes you bloody did. However, given the situation when you did that meant that the worst thing that could happen is that you might finish near the bottom of the table but would still be in SL the following year doesn't really compare when there's the issue of relegation.
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| I ain't come on here to gloat but your going to feel crap now for some time until the club starts to turn it around and it will,
I been through what you should of done now that's gone and passed, all I can say is get your heads down help out in any way you can, stop feeling sorry for your selves and look for the right way out of it.
the timing of the admin was way out and its going to leave you with very little to play with, just think what Kear had to play with.
you got 2 points off us which was deserved on the day well done
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| Quote ="Batleycat"get a life lads n lasses, nobody complained when we had to sell the likes of Tim Smith, Ben Cockayne, Justin Poore and Kyle Amour!! all top quality players we did it to prevent going into admin, you havent and until recently kept the majority of your squad inatct ( cheating) now you are in admin you complain, we have had it, get real, i for one am enjoying it as you did when misfortune grabbed hold of us'"
I for one did not enjoy it when your club was in trouble. Neither did I when Salford London Oldham Halifax Workington et al went through the wringer.
So don't tar all Bulls fans with that brush .And I refuse to believe that your view is representative of the majority of Wakefield fans .
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"Quote ="fun time frankie"Are you seriously thinking you've been badly done to'"
Absolutely, 3 punishments of a greater impact than others single one would seem clear evidence wouldn't they?'"
The lease on odsal stadium, have they done that for any other club?
The ''secret loan'', have they done that for any other club?
As one of the flagship clubs of the super league, the rfl has no incentive to supposedly screw bradford over. This victim mentality is tiresome though entirely understandable considering the cicrumstances the bulls are in.
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| Quote ="debaser"A one year contract at Wakefield? How does that secure his long term future?
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He has a guaranteed wage at the end of every month.
Do you seriously think players like living with the uncertainty at the bulls? They are human beings.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"The lease on odsal stadium, have they done that for any other club?
The ''secret loan'', have they done that for any other club?
As one of the flagship clubs of the super league, the rfl has no incentive to supposedly screw bradford over. This victim mentality is tiresome though entirely understandable considering the cicrumstances the bulls are in.'"
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1. Other clubs have asked for a loan secured against an asset? Suggest you don't, but loan against asset affects balance sheet and ability to fund an overdraft (as it did in 2012) and impacts long term viability of business (as it has)
2. Secret loan was an advance, which meant cash paid early. Are you suggesting we got more than everyone else? If you are you're wrong.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"He has a guaranteed wage at the end of every month.
Do you seriously think players like living with the uncertainty at the bulls? They are human beings.'"
He has been paid every month at the Bulls thanks.
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| Quote ="debaser"He has been paid every month at the Bulls thanks.'"
By Bradford bulls or the rfl?
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| Quote ="amberavenger"www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wildcats-secure-move-for-scruton/2014/03/
Biggest sickner here is the phrase "nominal fee"'"
Not a bit. You must remember the administrator is calling the shots, any money incoming would only go to him, it would not go to any new owner, so it may as well be a fee of nil.
I also guess this kind of answers the queries about TUPE - looks like basically the players if they want to leave are pretty much free agents now and any fee will presumably be to transfer their registration.
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| Quote ="debaser"He has been paid every month at the Bulls thanks.'"
Are you for real?
I never said he hadn't been paid.
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| Our trolls and critics seem to have been dead right about one thing, anyway. You know that huge commercial advantage we are reaping this year through having apparently not paid our way properly last year? It's there for all to see, isn't it. At least every single other club in the league is now really dead jealous of this massive commercial advantage we have over the rest. Yep, all green with envy.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Not a bit. You must remember the administrator is calling the shots, any money incoming would only go to him, it would not go to any new owner, so it may as well be a fee of nil.
I also guess this kind of answers the queries about TUPE - looks like basically the players if they want to leave are pretty much free agents now and any fee will presumably be to transfer their registration.'"
the administrator is doing what should have happened last year.. rfl payed this months wages but no more..wakey paid 30k for sammut ..and i understand that foster and addy will also be leaving! and then more...gale totally screwed up by negotiating new deal because it isnt valid.. bet there will be loads of you going to the next game !never mind.. and i bet koppy is ing himself just like gareth is
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| Quote ="snowie"you get points deduction for going into administration'"
How many points did Wakie get deducted for going into admin
Apology accepted in advance
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Wow, Wakefield really are picking over the carcass. Can't really blame Scruton for finally having enough though. Still once again surprised by his choice of club if he is looking for long term security.'"
Can't blame Wakey at all, enough vultures were hovering over their players last year when they were in trouble!
Sad to see the Bulls in this state though, really feel for the fans!
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| I think the timings prove how weak our position is.
They time Sammut, so he pulled out of Cas game and then played against us.
They time Scruts so he can't play against London, which obviously gives them a boost.
We couldn't even hold out until Monday, such bad times at the Bulls :/
Wakey are playing a blinder and giving themselves every chance.
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