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| If he can turn his hand to rhino-beating then he's in for mine.
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| One thing that hasn't really been discussed is what sort of shape is he in?
It has been quite a while since he has played a competitive RL match.. so even once he is over it could be a few weeks before he is up to speed. Let's be happy to have signed a quality player.. but not pin too much of our hopes on Bird alone.
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| Quote ="redeverready"But are you not one of the people on this board who would happily bring Leon Pryce.'"
yep - diff is leon was sentenced and served his sentence - cant hold it against him forever. If bird is found innocent then all well and good, if he's guilty then I have mixed feeling
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| brilliant signing, despite his supposed off field problems, im sure he'll be class on the field. biggest signing in super league this year. lets hope he signs on for 3 years.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"if you care to check out my views on Bird you will see that i did not want us to sign =redhim - amended Bullpower - - a long time ago before you were even linked with him. I posted that view on the VT and Giants site ages ago.
so there is no holier than thou approach. Nor am i concerned about his criminal behaviour. I just have a big issue with men who hit women. Maybe you do not.
You are welcome to check but hey dont let the facts get in the way.
You will also find that i made a similar point as you have about squad strength two weeks ago. again you can check if you want to rely on facts'"
Bit unfair that. I'm merely trying to point out that he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet. If he is then that's a different matter. I most certainly do have a problem with men that hit women.
Relying on facts he has been charged with three offences and is awaiting trial he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"One thing that hasn't really been discussed is what sort of shape is he in?
It has been quite a while since he has played a competitive RL match.. so even once he is over it could be a few weeks before he is up to speed. Let's be happy to have signed a quality player.. but not pin too much of our hopes on Bird alone.'"
I'd be a little worried about signing a key position player after the pre-season. However he's not the only half back we have so it's not as if we will be relying on him.
We can ease him in and use him to keep our current half backs fighting for their positions.
That can only be a good thing.
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| He's a great player but he hasn't trained with the club preseason and by the time he get's here the season will have started and he won't have played competitive Rugby League for six months. Then he's got a month and a half before he has to go back to Australia to face trial. Then he'll have to get back and try and fit into the squad again before the end of the season.
He's going to have to be some player.
Edit - Sorry hadn't read the posts above!
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| When will he arrive?
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| Is it true Bradford are being sponsored by Stella Artois?
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| really funny reading wigan/hudds/warrington forums how they never really wanted bird and what a poor signing he is - talk about sour grapes
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| Very good signing for you guys if he settles in and puts his problems behind him. He'll add some real quality to your halves which you needed. If Menzies plays in the backs you could be alot better than you were last season and could push up towards the top 3.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Very good signing for you guys if he settles in and puts his problems behind him. He'll add some real quality to your halves which you needed. If Menzies plays in the backs you could be alot better than you were last season and could push up towards the top 3.'"
think we'll get a better idea of where we're planning on playing menzies after dewsbury game. With sykes and johnson left out of squad theres only crooks and nero as dedicated so I'd imagine theres a good chance we'll try menzies at . Although with lynch and burgess out as well he might have to do a stint at prop
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Very good signing for you guys if he settles in and puts his problems behind him. '"
I've heard he's beaten his demons.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"I've heard he's beaten his demons.'"
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"When will he arrive?'"
They're hoping he'll be here by the end of next month.
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| Quote ="mat"really funny reading wigan/hudds/warrington forums how they never really wanted bird and what a poor signing he is - talk about sour grapes
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Safe to say we've signed the most unpopular player in the Super League. This we be made even more so if he turns out to be any good.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"They're hoping he'll be here by the end of next month.'"
Playing by the end of next month it says in the T & A Mac
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| Quote ="mat"yep - diff is leon was sentenced and served his sentence - cant hold it against him forever. If bird is found innocent then all well and good, if he's guilty then I have mixed feeling
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I didn't realise that Leon, and Stuart, had been sentenced, and done their time, I must have missed that in the news.
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| Quote ="born-idle"I didn't realise that Leon, and Stuart, had been sentenced, and done their time, I must have missed that in the news.'"
was referring to leons prior misdemeanor- afaik pryce and reardon havent been found guilty of anything yet and if they are then my opinion on pryce returning to bulls would probably be amended. You can only judge someone on facts as proven in a court- not allegations in papers which may or may not be true.
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| Quote ="mat"was referring to leons prior misdemeanor- afaik pryce and reardon havent been found guilty of anything yet and if they are then my opinion on pryce returning to bulls would probably be amended. You can only judge someone on facts as proven in a court- not allegations in papers which may or may not be true.
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Haven't they been charged and had an initial hearing? A bit more than allegations in a paper is it not?
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Haven't they been charged and had an initial hearing? A bit more than allegations in a paper is it not?'"
true - but still not proved and convicted in which case I'd seriously imagine pryce's RL career would be over and him returning to bradford would no longer be an issue
when is case due? people keep going on about disruptive effect of birds case in april, but bulls have a proven halves combination to cover that situation and also rest of season assuming worst outcome. Saints season however would effectively be de-railed should pryce be convicted
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| Quote ="mat"true - but still not proved and convicted in which case I'd seriously imagine pryce's RL career would be over and him returning to bradford would no longer be an issue
when is case due? people keep going on about disruptive effect of birds case in april, but bulls have a proven halves combination to cover that situation and also rest of season assuming worst outcome. Saints season however would effectively be de-railed should pryce be convicted
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| Quote ="mat"yep - diff is leon was sentenced and served his sentence - cant hold it against him forever. If bird is found innocent then all well and good, if he's guilty then I have mixed feeling
'" But Pryce is still in trouble and more than likely you'd have him back so whats the difference with Bird.
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| Quote ="redeverready"But Pryce is still in trouble and more than likely you'd have him back so whats the difference with Bird.'"
which is exactly why I have mixed feeling about the signing - as I've repeatedly said
I'd have pryce back based on the previous glassing incident which he's already been punished for. I would probably change my opinion based on the outcome of his current court case. Although given the current he wouldnt get in the team at his favoured position and would have to settle for a spot
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