i booed to my hearts content, the players deserved nothing else

Well the way you've put it sounds like a good enough reason to get rid.

I'm very pleased for you that it made you contented.

I'm sure that the likes of Lynch, playing on one leg, and Halley - players no-one wants to lose at the end of the season, were suitably uplifted by your contentment.

You know what all you boo-boys did? You just gave those players who we most want and need to keep one less reason for wanting to sign a new contract.

Should they move on at the end of the season, no doubt you'll blame the coach for that too?

Sry Adeybull but the boo is a symptom of the bigger issue and the bigger reason they will move on, We're nearly bottom of the league and look like we have no chance for honours.

The reason for people to boo needs to be dealt with and I'm afraid that means McNamara needs to go.

On a matter of total agreement Asim, I`ll leave it there.

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The only fundamental problem is the financial one Red and curing that doesn`t fall in the job description of head coach. All the others, or at least the ones that ARE problems, are transitory.

Weak defence, well yes it has been on occasion it`s also been very good on other occasions. If it`s good sometimes then it can be good most of the time and is hardly fundamental. Our start to the season baffled me to be honest. We started defending very well but couldn`t score tries and then we went the other way and started scoring but then couldn`t defend. Clearly they do know how to do both.

Handling errors, this might be fundamental in some respects (like how they were taught as kids) but you would expect pro rugby players to be competent handlers of the ball. It isn`t entirely up to coaches at SL clubs to teach players to suck eggs. It is, in any case, largely a confidence matter and that must be very low at the moment.

Lack of fitness, I don`t recognise that in the team to be fair. Being somewhat dispirited I can see (and yes, that is the coaches responsibility, though the boo boys also carry some blame) also as previously mentioned a total lack of confidence( as above). Our biggest problem with fitness is the current injury situation, imo.

As for a new coach (which the financial position probably precludes anyway) it may bring benefits, who knows; a new broom and all that it may temporarily galvanise the team but ultimately we`d still be left with the same squad and the same money worries. It really is no answer.

So the real issue why we're playing so badly is money? If that is the case then you believe the team is playing to it's full potential? I'm sorry but i don't agree, tactics, motivation e.t.c are the responsibility of the coach and have nothing to do with money. We have looked clueless at times and our attack is dire, we play one out rugby and it stinks, another reason why fans are staying away is it's just not attractive.

You try to go through the individual issues and explain it isn't the coaches fault, again i disagree. The coach is responsible for how the team perform and the results they get, to say there not just doesn't make sense. People seem to falling back on the money issue as a reason for our predicament, I believe the team has more potential than it's showing and I remember the posts on this board saying how we were all looking forward to the new season.

The coach IS responsible for results and where we are, he is there to get the best out of what he's got, from where I'm sat he's clearly not doing that.

Come on how can that be ?? Brad Met supply everything you want - screw the Cougars , Park A ,Bradford League Cricket ,even City...... and all those Council Tax payers who support em.

The Dulls have had it all at the expense of every other sporting organisation in the district... dont even attempt to plead poverty as a reason for your current plight

Please list these things out, for those of us who missed something somewhere?

Seconded?!?

My two penneth, is that to boo the coach and yet applaud the players off the field is bizarre, which is what was happening where I was stood.

Yes, McNamara is at fault, and is making poor decisions etc, but to shirk all the responsibilities onto him alone is bang out of order.

The financial position should not preclude bringing in a new coach, if that is the right decision. It would be expensive to bring in a new coach but that has to be measured against the loss of income we are suffering from our dwindling gates. Paying out £100k (if that is the figure) is a lot of dosh but what is the lost income from a reduction in gates of 2,000 over the course of a season? £200-300k?

A new coach would inherit the same squad but that would change as contracts come to an end. The real question is whether a new coach would bring in better players than the existing coach.

The exact same point I have been making. It may get tom a point where the club can not simply afford not to sack him.

I am not advocating keeping or getting rid of Mac, but I cannot ever recollect any leading (?) sporting club sticking with a failing coach solely because it might cost them £100k to get rid. TBH I am not sure I have even heard it discussed.

Well the usual expectation is that `the buck stops here`, which isn`t necessarily always fair, injuries and loss of form aren`t necessarily the fault of the coach, but nevertheless expected I guess. But there is a much bigger picture, which is visible if people want to look beyond the obvious. As I`ve said previously, though the squad isn`t of the quality we`ve had before ( I`m sure you can remember a back line a teensy bit stronger than the current one) I agree we aren`t getting the best out of it.



Again, as I`ve said before, I don`t want to come over as someone who believes in Macca right or wrong, because I don`t I just believe, given the situation he should be cut a bit of slack. However, if he goes he goes, but I wouldn`t necessarily expect any newcomer to do better over the medium term given he would have the same background problems, and I can`t understand why fans dismiss these as though they don`t matter. Burying one`s head in the sand doesn`t make the problem disappear. Actually the problems would be marginally worse given the club would have to buy out Macca`s contract which wouldn`t be cheap.

Let`s hope the season can be turned around, I guess we can all agree on that.

Think I'll be able to stop posting and put my feet up - Bulliac again says everything that I think needs to be said, in another quality post.

I don't think anyone is expecting SL & CC victories, however Bulls have a squad that should compete with Hudds, Quins, Hulls, Wakey, Cas (& possibly others). You are at least 5 points behind all those, possibly 7 after Friday. If you accept you are as good on paper the financial prospects are largely irrelevant & it must be largely down to the coaching & management.

I think you're confusing league position with competitiveness. Warrington is a case where we clearly did not compete, but in fact we have competed in most of our games, and even the basic scorelines surely show that, if nothing else?

An advantage of being relatively impartial is I can sit back & view relatively objectively. There is no confusion in my post, it's completely factual. I wouldn't expect anything less from you than to search for the positives from the season so far, I genuinely admire you for your loyalty, but some more cold, hard facts are Bulls have conceded more points than all the teams I mentioned, apart from Cas (by 2), but that is likley to significantly worse after Friday, & your points for is still likely to be by far the worse. Very few teams continue to lose by just a few points, eventually the psychology will get to you.

i was asked by a young "bulls" fan over the weekend how much it was in to watch fax as he was thinking of coming over

I've got a fax that he can watch for free.

Thanks for that, but you're looking for a rose-tinted one-eyed partisanship that really wasn't there.

Bradford Bulls vs Hull KR 13 - 13. Not many points in that one. In fact, 0.
Bradford Bulls vs Huddersfield Giants 12 - 16 . Not many points in that one. Call it 4.
=greenBradford Bulls vs Hull FC 24 - 36 . Not many points in that one, but I'll concede not a close enough game to 'count' in my general argument
=redCatalans Dragons vs Bradford Bulls - 24 - 30. Not many points in that one. But again, we ended up the right side.
Castleford Tigers vs Bradford Bulls 28 - 26. Not many points in that one. 2, to be precise.
Catalans Dragons vs Bradford Bulls 40 - 38. Not many points in that one. 2 more, to be exact.
=redBradford Bulls vs Leeds Rhinos 10-6 . Not many points in that one, but we were on the right side again.
Wakefield Wildcats vs Bradford Bulls 24 - 22. Not many points in that one. 2, to be precise.

The way we have been shipping in points, points difference is the more relevant measure for us so far.

Of the above games that we failed to win, the points differences were:-
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These are cold, hard facts.

When you look at our points conceded, as you have, and indeed the aggregate points difference, the two unmitigated paggerings by Wire and Wigan obviously were a different category of loss altogether. We shipped over a century of points, FFS.

=blueBradford Bulls vs Warrington Wolves 22 - 58
Wigan Warriors vs Bradford Bulls 44-10

But bad though we were, they are not, on ANY view, what we have been doing [iall[/i season. This, let's be clear, is in no way positive spin, or [iany[/i spin, just listing the facts lest they be lost sight of.

On such narrow margins, an impartial observer would say it is fact that we could very easily have had four more league wins than we do, and still be in the Cup. It is fact that we have THROWN games away in some cases rather than having simply been beaten. It isn't good, but it is fact.

I do honesty really like watching the fax machine at work, I get quite excited if I have to send one!

Have to agree with that, and couldn't have worded it better myself. Although it's the same old from Macca "we're doing a lot of things right" it gets annoying, but most times it's true. When we marginally lose, we have to be doing a lot of stuff right, or it would be a pasting like at Wire or Wigan.