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| It will always be a possibility until we are mathematically too far from 8th place, enough games left for upsets to be caused IMO - Hull was a must win game as is Leeds but if we can succomb Leeds i still think (or should be hope) we have a chance !!!
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| Loose at leeds, then it is defiantly GAME OVER
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| It is only GAME OVER when it is not mathematically possible to make the play-offs
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"It is only GAME OVER when it is not mathematically possible to make the play-offs
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Ok then, loose to leeds weve got 0.000001% chance of making the play offs.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok then, loose to leeds weve got 0.000001% chance of making the play offs.
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There is still 9 games left for gods sake -all we have to do is win 2 more than Hull do out of them 9 and 1 more than Salford, which is still possible as i cant see Hull winning all of there remaining games (not saying we will)............
Need to take each game as it comes - you cannot write anybody off yet as like i said it is always possible until we cant make it for sure !!
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| Hmm. Five winnables plus Hudds at home, plus two Hail Marys at Wigan and Wire. So a par performance is probably four wins, leaving us with 24 points. Nudge just north of that and we should make it, maybe at the expense of Cas rather than Hull.
Suspect we'll just miss out, as in 09. But reality is that the last three weeks' results, taking more than two points off Leeds and Saints but losing to Hull is not far off taking no points off those two but beating Hull, in terms of where it pits us in relation to Hull. We need one more win than them from one less game - doable.
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| I don't think we will make it. Last week's loss was massive.
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| Odd that we'd put in strong efforts either side of a four pointer where most agree we under-performed. Not sure what we divine from that.
But before those games, we would probably have hoped to have beaten Hull and not expected any return from Saints and Leeds. As it was we lost to Hull, making us effectively four points off. We took three unexpected points though, so we're only a point worse off, probably the same as being level as given the state of our PD level most likely won't do. And in terms of Cas who have a tough run-in and aren't out of sight if we can get a win there, we're actually one point better off.
My money would also be on us missing out, but my money would always be on us not winning the league or cup, even in the glory days. The rest of the the field put together always had a better chance than us alone. But the unlikeliness doesn't stop me taking an interest. And the fixture list shows it would take a good rather than a superhuman effort to make it, with the possibility of a return to Headingley as a reward if we did.
Not over till it's over. Roll on next week.
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| The problem with the Hull los is it was a genuine and fundamental 4 pojter - check thetable as it would be if we'd beaten them. So, not just we're 2 points worse off, but that loss took Hull prety much out of the equation. (And yes, yes, I know Hull could totally collapse, and in theory we could win every game etc etc).
So to me that loss was us out of the playoffs there and then. OTOH stranger things have happened. An extreme optimist would point out that if we win every remaining game we WILL be in the playoffs, and that's true If we could bottle our Jekyll attitude and make the players drink it on Hyde days, like v Hull, it would lessen the odds. I've given up trying to work out the reasons for having a split personality squad.
But whatever - I'd been going round bragging loudly that I was confident we would turn Leeds over (to much derision) so this coming week is going to be a good week with quite a bit of free beer
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Well, I am now confident that we will make the 8.
What, "confident", you cry?
Well, yes. I made up this little spreadsheet, put in the points I think we and our rivals for the 8 will get to the end of the season, and the way it looks to me, we have got something to spare.
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* I haven't checked it. I think I've put a 2 and a 0 for each relevant match but it's possible I may have blooped, as you do when cobbling something in a hurry.
* I know you may find it hard to believe, but I may turn out to have got one or even two predictions wrong.
Even so, and even if some of the results go against us, it does seem that we should be able to do it without as much bother as I had thought; there's only Leeds who will be clear of us, but the others are some distance behind.
[url=http://goo.gl/DLzd9FA's bonzer forecasting spreadsheet[/url'"
Had a play on this, I have us on 24 joint wth Cas and one behind Hull, which I suspect would see us miss out on PD.
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| Quote ="debaser"I don't think we will make it. Last week's loss was massive.'"
Last week's loss was two points that would have made it easier; no more, no less. The win at Headingley shows that nothing is decided and we need to keep scrapping for points. There are still a few shocks, ifs, buts and maybes left in the season. I've still got my fingers crossed
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| Quote ="af"Had a play on this, I have us on 24 joint wth Cas and one behind Hull, which I suspect would see us miss out on PD.'"
I have updated the spreadsheet expecting to have my depression confirmed but with results to date there is not much difference, and we are still in the playoffs. Well, well. I can't argue with a spreadsheet, so we must be OK
or more likely I screwed something up
[url=http://goo.gl/DLzd9 FA's bonzer forecasting spreadsheet[/url
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I have updated the spreadsheet expecting to have my depression confirmed but with results to date there is not much difference, and we are still in the playoffs. Well, well. I can't argue with a spreadsheet, so we must be OK
or more likely I screwed something up
[url=http://goo.gl/DLzd9FA's bonzer forecasting spreadsheet[/url'"
Cas won at Salford.
I think you maybe expecting a few too many wins for Bradford but fair enough. I didn't realise that Hull have a hard July.
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| Catalans have beaten Cas 54 - 20
We're going to have to play really well on Saturday to have any chance of picking up the two points I think!
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| I got it at:
Bulls 24
Cas 22
Hull 27
Leeds 29
HKR 22
Salford 22.
That would see us 8th, we need 2 points from the next two games (ideally against cas), but otherwise i think thats it.
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| Cas will drop out of the 8, just not sure if it will be us or Salford??
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| We WILL make the play-offs. Quite comfortably so, I think.
We'll then get smashed in the first week.
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| Quote
We'll then get smashed in the first week.'"
Depends who finishes 5th. Catalans away would be tough but I'd be quite comfortable with Leeds away
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| Quote ="mat"Depends who finishes 5th. Catalans away would be NICE but I'd be quite comfortable with Leeds away'"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I have updated the spreadsheet expecting to have my depression confirmed but with results to date there is not much difference, and we are still in the playoffs. Well, well. I can't argue with a spreadsheet, so we must be OK
or more likely I screwed something up
[url=http://goo.gl/DLzd9FA's bonzer forecasting spreadsheet[/url'"
Guess you don't like Cas considering you have us losing all games bar Hull?
Suspect the Bulls v Cas game, Cas v Crusaders and Cas v Wakefield games may go the other way. Oh and maybe the HKR game on their recent form.
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| Quote ="Fully"Guess you don't like Cas considering you have us losing all games bar Hull?
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You seriously think my forecasts were in any way based on who I "like"? If that was the plan, then as you can assume I "like" the Bulls, why haven't I got us winning every game?
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| Based on this weekends games - if they all go in our favour which is quite possible as Hull, Cas & even Leeds are playing 3 of the top 4 teams who will probably be expected to win...........
If we can get a win against the Dragons that will take us with in 3 points of 6th placed Leeds, and would be more than do-able to make the 8
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| There will be plenty more shock results between now and then end of the year. I've given up trying to predict what this Bulls side will do from one week to the next. Let's just hope the Hull performance was a blip in what otherwise has been a good few weeks. Catalans will be a tough one and our pack will need to front up otherwise we could get a real spanking.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"There will be plenty more shock results between now and then end of the year. I've given up trying to predict what this Bulls side will do from one week to the next. Let's just hope the Hull performance was a blip in what otherwise has been a good few weeks. Catalans will be a tough one and our pack will need to front up otherwise we could get a real spanking.'"
Think im just going to comment on our possibilities week by week because its easier, but at the mo we have to rely on the top of the pile continuing there form to help us out - but like i say if results go our way this weekend, the table should make interesting reading from 6th - 10th
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| Totally forget the hull match and our last 4 games have been very good.
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