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| I thought Purtell looked a bit off yesterday, he gave a slick pass for one of Williams' tries but he was caught flying out of the line for the Taulapapa try, dropping off a couple of grab tackles and seemed to make little ground with the ball in hand constantly stopping or stepping inside.
A T&A article the other week with Henry said he's been told to reign in the reckless offloading so Clare was kept a little quite when he was on the wing, but Adam was found out a couple of times defensively again, but then so would anyone against Yere. Blythe and Ryan were caught out badly for the final Yere try. That's very sloppy and Matty Blythe seems to have really struggled after being on the back foot since his comeback.
Danny Addy is nailed on for scrum half all year whether rightly or wrongly if up for discussion but he's playing quite well overall but he was good yesterday, he's a Jimmy favourite and has the key element of being settled there. Plus he'd never shift Pitts from loose forward, nor should he.
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| Perhaps not season defining in the terms of league mathematics but if we are to progress then we could do with getting a result against the apparent worst SL team. To have a real chance of promotion, we need to be taking points from our direct competition for 3rd, 4th and 5th otherwise it will be tough.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"I thought Purtell looked a bit off yesterday, he gave a slick pass for one of Williams' tries but he was caught flying out of the line for the Taulapapa try, dropping off a couple of grab tackles and seemed to make little ground with the ball in hand constantly stopping or stepping inside.
A T&A article the other week with Henry said he's been told to reign in the reckless offloading so Clare was kept a little quite when he was on the wing, but Adam was found out a couple of times defensively again, but then so would anyone against Yere. Blythe and Ryan were caught out badly for the final Yere try. That's very sloppy and Matty Blythe seems to have really struggled after being on the back foot since his comeback.
Danny Addy is nailed on for scrum half all year whether rightly or wrongly if up for discussion but he's playing quite well overall but he was good yesterday, he's a Jimmy favourite and has the key element of being settled there. Plus he'd never shift Pitts from loose forward, nor should he.'"
Addy is nailed on for scrum half, probably for the entire play off.
Has anybody heard if Ryan's hand injury is a concern? He looked to be in quite a bit of discomfort towards the end. It looked like it could have been a thumb/finger dislocation but not heard anything.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Perhaps not season defining in the terms of league mathematics but if we are to progress then we could do with getting a result against the apparent worst SL team. To have a real chance of promotion, we need to be taking points from our direct competition for 3rd, 4th and 5th otherwise it will be tough.'"
Agree it isn't season defining as we have two very winnable games straight after. But if we beat Wakefield next week I just cannot see them recovering. We would be 4 points clear of one of our main rivals and i cannot see where their next win would come from. Also the damage it would do to them psychologically. It''s the old "4 pointer"
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| I don't see Widnes at home as 'very winnable' and I'd say we're underdogs against Salford. I agree with Sensie, next week is pivotal.
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| Sounds like a good start.
Big test will be on Saturday against SL opposition - should be an interesting one for sure
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"I don't see Widnes at home as 'very winnable' and I'd say we're underdogs against Salford. I agree with Sensie, next week is pivotal.'"
Not saying w'ere favourites, but i firmly believe we'll be in with a shout in both those games. Widnes's struggles on grass were evident again yesterday (Taking nothing away from Fax)
Also no one has any idea which Salford side will turn up.
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| Well they all count for 2 points at the end of the day but we're probably going to be fighting for 3/4/5 spots with the likes of Wakefield so a win would be massive. Make no mistake, Wakefield will be fighting for their lives on Sat and we'll have to be very good to get another win. We have enough quality in our side to get the job done though, so the players should be confident.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Agree it isn't season defining as we have two very winnable games straight after. But if we beat Wakefield next week I just cannot see them recovering. We would be 4 points clear of one of our main rivals and i cannot see where their next win would come from. Also the damage it would do to them psychologically. It''s the old "4 pointer"'"
Certainty is. Also, if Leigh lose to Salford and Wakefield lose to us, they'll both be on 0 points and they play [ieach other[/i next week. It's a long way back for the loser of that one if results go our way.
Saturday is probably more important for Wakefield than us and there'll be more pressure on them. If they lose, their chances at finishing top 3 are all but gone IMO. If we lose, we still have the Halifax game, and 2 home games against a very unpredictable Salford and a Widnes team hardly comfortable on grass. Not saying they'll be easy games, but I think we have a good chance. I think we're very capable of winning at Leigh too.
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| Quote ="BullCharge"
Saturday is probably more important for Wakefield than us and there'll be more pressure on them. If they lose, their chances at finishing top 3 are all but gone IMO. If we lose, we still have the Halifax game, and 2 home games against a very unpredictable Salford and a Widnes team hardly comfortable on grass. Not saying they'll be easy games, but I think we have a good chance. I think we're very capable of winning at Leigh too.'"
Tend to agree with this.
This it's important to play our game and be competitive. Though they finished bottom, they have improved and are at home.
A solid performance to build confidence and take in to the rest of the comp is all I'm looking at - a win would be a massive boost (and certainly not beyond us)
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Not saying w'ere favourites, but I firmly believe we'll be in with a shout in both those games. Widnes's struggles on grass were evident again yesterday (Taking nothing away from Fax)
Also no one has any idea which Salford side will turn up.'"
Only 2 bookies (Sky and Hills) with prices up at the moment and we are +8 with Sky and +6 with hills. Basically that means the layers can't separate the teams, and so give Wakey a single try favouritism for being at home.
Must say the way we played with Gaskell back, the 8 points start is very tempting.
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| It may come down to the desire to want it more.
Sure Jimmy will have them fired up.....
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| If they need to be 'fired up' by the coach at this stage of the season, there's something amiss, imo.
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| Replace "fired up" with "instilled with self-belief" and I agree. Lowes has to make them believe that they are better and that they can do it.
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| Had a quick look at the stats on SL site for this game (Been a while since we had this privilege). Jay Pitts take a bow. Made almost double the amount of tackles (42) than our next player (Sidlow 24) Missed one all game. Also that hit on Knowles was a beauty.
Unsung hero for us is Pitts. Always has at least has an 7 or 8 out of 10 game. In fact i can't remember him having a poor game all year.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Replace "fired up" with "instilled with self-belief" and I agree. Lowes has to make them believe that they are better and that they can do it.'"
Take your point.....but sometimes that motivational speech just before you go out there can have a big impact.
Self belief and a desire to "bleed and die" for your "brother" on the battle field is very powerful
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Had a quick look at the stats on SL site for this game (Been a while since we had this privilege). Jay Pitts take a bow. Made almost double the amount of tackles (42) than our next player (Sidlow 24) Missed one all game. Also that hit on Knowles was a beauty.
Unsung hero for us is Pitts. Always has at least has an 7 or 8 out of 10 game. In fact i can't remember him having a poor game all year.'"
Very impressive stats those. To attempt 43 tackles, and only miss 1 of them, is very efficient. He's our best option at Loose Forward for me.
Clough's stats are impressive too. 21 tackles, none missed, and ran for 104 metres.
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| If we beat Wakey, then we basically need 2 more wins to be at least in the playoff game. That is very do-able. If we lose, we likely need 3 wins from 5 and that is hard. So the team will never have a bigger incentive to motivate them than this game.
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| Anyone got a link to the stats from the Sheffield game?
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| Did you have In Goal Judges?
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| Quote ="atomic"Did you have In Goal Judges?'"
Yep, and they were as useful as usual.
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| Quote ="Duckman"Yep, and they were as useful as usual.'"
Were you on sky sports xtra or the app?
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| Quote ="atomic"Were you on sky sports xtra or the app?'"
Neither AFAIK
And Id take the in goal judges over having just one camera to use with the video ref any day
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Take your point.....but sometimes that motivational speech just before you go out there can have a big impact.
Self belief and a desire to "bleed and die" for your "brother" on the battle field is very powerful'"
Well I'm sure some of Nobby's half time talks will spring to Jimmy's mind if needs be, all the Team need to do is to start resolute keep resolute and finish resolute and if needed the rub of the green!
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