The source was correct. Hope you can get a decent owner like Carter and get some stability.

He probably thinks it's more secure than being in the dole queue in a couple of weeks. You can't blame the lad.

Paul Sykes and Richie Mathers?

I know I'm starting a storm, but feeling like I do as a long term fan I think it has to be said, that in other administrations in Super League, teams had a single sanction (4 points penalty), we had 3 (or 4 if you count 2 lots of 6 points), being 6 points penalty (note 2 more than others!!!, funding removed and special measures. Is it any wonder we feel victimized, and I know we got a loan in 2011/12, but the RFL gave the loan against an asset. Whether the asset was worth the loan is not our concern, the RFL thought it was. Duck for the bile and vitriol that will follow.

Are you seriously thinking you've been badly done to

Yes. One of a points deduction, special measures or a reduction in central funding would be a fair punishment for the poor way the club has been run. But all 3? Especially in a relegation year?

Yes, that's us being badly done to.

If only you would have all listened you wouldnt have this now, you have no idea what badly done to means.

Why have we been deducted points when we hvent come out of administration?

Absolutely, 3 punishments of a greater impact than others single one would seem clear evidence wouldn't they?

Because the RFL know who is going to buy and the terms! That's the only rationale. If they hadn't docked the points when they rejected BB2014, you could argue otherwise.

Why do I feel we're about to crash into an unfunny version of the 4 Yorkshiremen sketch?

Well we 'ad it tough. Our club got docked 3,000,000 points, had to sew their own kits from scratch, play the rest of the league all day every day with only 4 players AND pay RFL for permission to play in their league and at end o'the day we had to lick Blake Solly clean wi' our tongues

1st thing today about the Bulls that made me smile

Oh my god

Why don't we sell or loan all of our players to Wakey. Their ground is poor so we can also let them play at Odsal. As a further help we could loan them our kit so it saves them some money. That is probably the only way we will see "our" team playing there in the future.

get a life lads n lasses, nobody complained when we had to sell the likes of Tim Smith, Ben Cockayne, Justin Poore and Kyle Amour!! all top quality players we did it to prevent going into admin, you havent and until recently kept the majority of your squad inatct ( cheating) now you are in admin you complain, we have had it, get real, i for one am enjoying it as you did when misfortune grabbed hold of us

you get points deduction for going into administration

Please explain HOW it's cheating. Poor planning and poor budgeting is not cheating. We've not broken the salary cap, which given that your argument suggests that wages are where we're cheating, means that we've not cheated.

And you didn't complain when you had to sell players? Yes you bloody did. However, given the situation when you did that meant that the worst thing that could happen is that you might finish near the bottom of the table but would still be in SL the following year doesn't really compare when there's the issue of relegation.

I ain't come on here to gloat but your going to feel crap now for some time until the club starts to turn it around and it will,
I been through what you should of done now that's gone and passed, all I can say is get your heads down help out in any way you can, stop feeling sorry for your selves and look for the right way out of it.

the timing of the admin was way out and its going to leave you with very little to play with, just think what Kear had to play with.

you got 2 points off us which was deserved on the day well done

I for one did not enjoy it when your club was in trouble. Neither did I when Salford London Oldham Halifax Workington et al went through the wringer.
So don't tar all Bulls fans with that brush .And I refuse to believe that your view is representative of the majority of Wakefield fans .

The lease on odsal stadium, have they done that for any other club?

The ''secret loan'', have they done that for any other club?

As one of the flagship clubs of the super league, the rfl has no incentive to supposedly screw bradford over. This victim mentality is tiresome though entirely understandable considering the cicrumstances the bulls are in.

He has a guaranteed wage at the end of every month.

Do you seriously think players like living with the uncertainty at the bulls? They are human beings.

Do you know if

1. Other clubs have asked for a loan secured against an asset? Suggest you don't, but loan against asset affects balance sheet and ability to fund an overdraft (as it did in 2012) and impacts long term viability of business (as it has)
2. Secret loan was an advance, which meant cash paid early. Are you suggesting we got more than everyone else? If you are you're wrong.

He has been paid every month at the Bulls thanks.

By Bradford bulls or the rfl?

Not a bit. You must remember the administrator is calling the shots, any money incoming would only go to him, it would not go to any new owner, so it may as well be a fee of nil.

I also guess this kind of answers the queries about TUPE - looks like basically the players if they want to leave are pretty much free agents now and any fee will presumably be to transfer their registration.