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| What is the status of those who played today? Presumably turning out for the newco means they have accepted the TUPE transfer?
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| A 21 year old Decent Super League Player (DSLP) goes to his Mortgage Adviser (MA) and asks for a mortgage on a £150,000 house.
MA - how much are you earning and for how long do you have a guaranteed salary.
DSLP - £60,000 per year, contracted for 3 years.
MA - Do you have expectations of earning money above that 3 years and for how long?
DSLP - If I can continue to improve then I can continue to earn this salary and perhaps more until I am about 34.
MA - Will you have any income after being 34 that I can take into account
DSLP - Unless I can become a coach or be famous enough to be a TV pundit, then no.
MA - Then you are asking me to arrange a 25 year mortgage where you have no more than a 3 year contract in a trade where you could be finished by injury or lack of form?
DSLP - So what would advise me to do ?
MA - You have only 13 years to pay off your Mortgage, should you play that long, and the same time to accrue a pension. You need to maximize any opportunity to increase your salary given that your earning period is so short.
DSLP - Would not moving from my current club , which has nurtured me from being a Junior seem disloyal to some of the fans?
MA - They rightly might. Keep the faith in you wife and family and do the best for them
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| You missed the part where he decides to walk out on his hometown club two days before their most important game of the season. Can't forget that bit
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"Aiiii and Hull have signed Jonathan Thurston and Danny Brough too!! Don't believe what you read, what is a fact though is that Bradford owe alot of money to a lot of people and I would imagine players will have to leave to cover the debts.'"
Fact money is owed? Whats your source of this FACT ? Can you detail what debts remain?
You IMAGINE players will have to leave.
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| Quote ="Nothus"You missed the part where he decides to walk out on his hometown club two days before their most important game of the season. Can't forget that bit
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I did not miss that part.
The possible reasons for leaving his home town club was explained.
It appears that he gave notice to the club on the 2nd September, and not on the 6th as you suggest
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Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Fact money is owed? Whats your source of this FACT ? Can you detail what debts remain?
You IMAGINE players will have to leave.'"
Still a long long way to go before everyone owed money is paid off including the Cheerleaders!!!
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ls/?ref=mr
Don't even get me started on the poor sods who were conned into helping raise £500k
The Bulls seem to have rode rough shod over quite a few but reckon its finally catching up with them now
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Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Fact money is owed? Whats your source of this FACT ? Can you detail what debts remain?
You IMAGINE players will have to leave.'"
Still a long long way to go before everyone owed money is paid off including the Cheerleaders!!!
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... ls/?ref=mr
Don't even get me started on the poor sods who were conned into helping raise £500k
The Bulls seem to have rode rough shod over quite a few but reckon its finally catching up with them now
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"Still a long long way to go before everyone owed money is paid off including the Cheerleaders'"
Confirmed by the Administrator that no debts will be paid. Either Ordinary or Preferential.
New company will be debt free.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Confirmed by the Administrator that no debts will be paid. Either Ordinary or Preferential.
New company will be debt free.'"
Wanna explain why you was asking for proof until proof was provided and now you accepting that money is still owed
Are you one of the ones running the club?
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| Idiot.
You stated that players would have to leave to cover the debts.
Totally wrong.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Idiot.
You stated that players would have to leave to cover the debts.
Totally wrong.'"
Then surely Kopczak is a free agent as are all the other Bulls players unless they have signed contracts with the new debt free company?
Or do you want it all in your favour?
Idiot!!
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"Wanna explain why you was asking for proof until proof was provided and now you accepting that money is still owed
Are you one of the ones running the club?'"
Double IDIOT
It was not I asking for .......
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Confirmed by the Administrator that no debts will be paid. Either Ordinary or Preferential.
New company will be debt free.'"
Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?
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| 12 pages so far? About this plodder? Really???
The way I see it that Sheffield have got a very average player, we have a very average player off the wage bill and if Sheffield are proven to have acted improperly then we will no doubt be in for more £££££'s than we could ever have got for him.
Everyone's a winner.
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| Can't say I blame him. Bad timing but then he's been on the receiving end of some of that this season. It's a short career, he needs to put his family 1st
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| Last Monday or Tuesday there were 2 posts on the T&A forum re Bulls players fighting in Bradford, one arrested and some players not turning up for training the day after. The posts were quickly removed, were they a wind up or has anybody heard anything? If true it could be related to the Koppy story.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?'"
Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Enlighten us to who it was then? And yes when you were RELEGATED. We have not been. There is a huge difference.'"
If Koppy was contractually able to do it there is no difference at all, apart from one meaningless game. You think honourable Bradford waited until the season was over before talking to Cas's best players?
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Last Monday or Tuesday there were 2 posts on the T&A forum re Bulls players fighting in Bradford, one arrested and some players not turning up for training the day after. The posts were quickly removed, were they a wind up or has anybody heard anything? If true it could be related to the Koppy story.'"
Sounds like a wind up to me.
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
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Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them.
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
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I would imagine that the cheerleaders, and the caterers and the printers and everyone else owed money might like to think that The BRADFORD BULLS as an entity might like to get some of their money back.
alternatively when Bradford try to sign some contracts for services next season they might be told give us the money up front or FO.
It also makea mockery of the RFL that they bailed Bradford out and left them with their assets and did nothing for the creditors.
If what you are saying is right i could see the Bulls and the RFL being tied up in legal issues for years.
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| The way the system is seems to play into the hands of players with longer term contracts. They secure their future by signing a long contract but if something like this happens they put themselves on the market to see who bites. If the club is saved then they win as their contract is passed over and they were happy with it when they signed it.
However, if they hit upon a club who offers them more money they just bide their time and refuse to be under contract to the new owners when offered. If no one offers them a better contract they just realise they're on a good thing where they are and stay. It's win win for them unless the club goes under.
I feel sorry for the out-of-contract players who have expected a new contract then a short sentence in a newspaper quoted from their coach hints the whole lot of out-of-contract players are on their way out. They're suddenly trying to find new clubs, new careers etc.
As for Kopczak he's hardly set the world on fire this season anyway. Good luck to him in his new club!
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?'"
What legal fast one is that? Do enlighten us?
Be aware in your reply that some of us on here are clearly far better acquainted with the insolvency legislation than you seem to be, so we await your response with interest.
I would also suggest in your response you indicate why your statement does not constitute a libel on Mr Khan and/or his company.
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| Well moving away from the Giants bashing... which i think it is too early to do due to the little information we have been given but thats just my opinion!
Hopefully Koppie getting his letter on the 3rd of Sept saying his contract was TUPEd across to the new company as of the 31st Aug means he is the only one to serve notice against it and make leave!
Hopefully the majority of the other contracted players have agreed and we can get some OOC signed up now and concentrate on rugby league next season instead!
Wow more threads on matches than finances! I have a dream....
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| Quote ="hullbg"Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them.
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Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull'"
you really have no clue what happened between fc and gateshead do you?
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