Only because one of the people posting about it probably edited it just before the question

Wiki certainly was one that said Sydney when I looked. Most odd.

in fact

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I think you were talking about diff people, some Withers, some PAV.

I hope it's just a spooky co-incidence that "PAV" is traditional trade shorthand for "Pre-Accident Value"

Ah Van has some goalkicking on his stats pages, not many, but I wonder if he sees himself as a potential goalkicker? Its certainly a department we have been lacking in since Deacs left and I've been hoping one of our signings is a decent goalkicker, and if Ah Van fancies a go the competition for kicking duties can only be useful IMO.

I was referring to PAV! (well done BullsChamps, I like this new nickname much better).

So I assume the original post you were quoting was referring to the fact both Hape and Withers were virtual unknowns but turned out to be good uns rather than Withers being a Kiwi (which he certainly isn't).

Pat the Van was mentioned in the T&A

I was referring to Withers and I must have misconstrued the post that was made. Just him going on about Kiwis was a tad confusing I guess.

Glad we sorted that one out cos I thought I was going mad!

Wasn't Withers a Dally M Junior player of the year? not bad for an unknown

Shirley Withers.
Mick's missus?