Pickers to FB and Ryan to centre seems the most logical move for mine. Does Grant play centre at all? First time this season we've been stacked in the forwards. About time too. Hopefully we can kick on from here.

I’d go:

Pickersgill
Foggin-Johnston
Webster
Ryan
Grant
Lilley
Milnes
Kirk
Wildie
Crossley
Farrell
Garside
Minchella

Flanagan
Green
Peltier
Bustin

Hodgson and Hallas to miss out for me. Unless we go Hallas at 13 then Garside drops out.

I'll be surprised if Kear picks 5 props in his 17.

Why would Hallas miss out? Most people said he was one of our best players last week.

Garside seems to have offered little or nothing this season, I'd have Hallas ahead of him any day of the week.

I think the majority would agree.
No way does Hallas get left out

1. Teteh, Carey, and Whylie are all injured, and Boas may or may not return from injury.
2. Not sure Bradford are in any position to comment about using Leeds players.

Well, if you are referring to 2017 when we had 4 Leeds players on loan, that was obviously to get a team onto the field at all, having just gone through liquidation and having to start the season in the Championship on 2-weeks notice, after our squad had been stripped bare.

But let's not go over that old chestnut again.

What we didn't do then, and definitely wouldn't now, is enter into an agreement with a SL club to effectively act as their reserve grade. I just checked and your backline last weekend had 3 Rhinos players. So I don't know where the players you listed above are meant to fit into the team.

With the news breaking of Cheyse Blair signing for Cas, this could be feasible.

Egodo has been named in the 17 for 5 out of 10 of Castleford's games this season. Even with the signing of a new threequarter, he's clearly in the plans. They may allow him to go out on loan, but I'd be amazed if they released him.

Fair assessment

The first bit is simply not true - Bradford continued to re-sign the likes of Oledzki, Cam Smith etc late into the season whenever they became available again after being recalled by Leeds. Bradford were perfectly capable of fielding a starting 17 without Leeds players - you did it twice against us, once in the Cup, once in the League over Easter - but generally chose not to because the Leeds players were better than some of your existing ones. It's just comical when fans of some teams claim that their use of DR/loans is somehow "different". Most Fev fans are actually against the concept of DR - like most fans overall - but it's amusing when fans of other teams who have also used it get on their high horse about it.

Your comemnt about effectively acting as Leeds' reserve grade is also far from the truth. If that were the case, the likes of Alex Sutcliffe, who has nowhere to play at Leeds, would be with us every week. He has played once for us so far (at Leigh, when he was drafted in at the last minute following a late withdrawal), and he'll play for us tomorrow. If Teteh and Carey were fit (Whylie is a long-term absentee), I'm pretty certain that neither Sutcliffe or Broadbent would be playing.

How does that relate to Golding, Briscoe and Newman all playing for you last week?

As for us keeping the Leeds lads in 2017, of course they were better than the other players we were able to sign. We didn't even have a club two weeks before the start of the season, so we had to sign either players from our previous incarnation that literally nobody else wanted, or make up the squad with loans or short-term deals.

Because you were trying to suggest that we are "effectively acting as their reserve grade". If that were the case, we would be fielding the maximum five Leeds players on DR each week regardless of whether we wanted to select them or not, and that's manifestly not the case.

And yes, we have regularly chosen to go with Briscoe and Golding over some of our younger/more inexperienced players, just as you did in 2017. There's no difference between what we are doing and what you did.

And we had to let about 20 players go because of our financial situation at the end of last season, and if you look at the teams we fielded in our pre-season friendlies, they were filled with very recent signings from local amateur clubs. Presumably you are saying we should have played these recently-signed young lads in our early-season games rather than the DR guys, yet it was ok for you to play the Leeds (and Widnes) guys in 2017?

Let me explain the diffrence.

without borrowing players in 2017 there would have been some weeks where we wouldnt have been even able to field 17 players. (You will know all about that after last years embarrasment) This year you have enough players to run a reserve grade yet you still CHOOSE to play the lads from leeds rather than play your own players

Is that clear enough for you?

This is laughable. You didn't just play them when you couldn't raise a team. You chose to play them pretty much whenever they were available.

Towards the end of last season there were a couple of occasions when Fev only named a 14-man squad, because we literally had no other players available. If what you are saying about not being able to field 17 players was true, that would have happened with Bradford in 2017 when the loan/DR players were unavailable, but it didn't. In fact, the week after you played Fev in the Challenge Cup with no loan/DR players, you played Dewsbury and immediately slotted five loan guys back into your team.

Is THAT clear enough for you?

Why you arguing over something two years a go?. We didn't even D/R with Leeds.

D/Rs a a farce. Bringing one player like Brad Singleton for one game not to be seen again all year is a farce. Its hinders player development as with Jordan Lilley.

I personally don't think it helps teams like Fev either.

Because it's annoying when fans of teams who have used DR themselves ( or widespread loans) somehow try to defend their own usage whilst attacking another teams' usage.

I don't especially disagree with anyone saying DR is a farce btw, or with your comments about Singleton. If DR gets voted out, that's fine by me. I just don't like the comments about one team's use somehow being more innocent or acceptable than another's.

Not sure anyone said that but you - then again, I am tired...

I don't think The Phantom Horsemen is making a bad point here. There's not a lot of difference between Fev this year especially (after cutting costs massively) and Bradford last year. The comment about running a reserve grade but playing DR players is redundant too, as Bradford last year ran a reserve grade, but in the first team saw the likes of Egodo, Hitchcox, Green, Lilley, Laithwaite & Butler-Fleming picked above those reserves.
Loads of clubs do it. I don't think any club who has used the loan/DR systems can claim to be holier than thou. Personally I agree DR is awful, but equally don't blame clubs like Fev, Sheffield & Leigh for exploiting it if it's there and they can get some quality in their side that they'd otherwise be lacking.

I take more issue with people like Lee Greenwood at Dewsbury. Outspoken about how he doesn't like DR, but then massively overuses the loan market meaning their team regularly has 3, 4 or 5 loan players in the side. He's using semantics of the differences between DR and loans to be a massive hypocrite.

I think you have gotten confused, The discussion was about duel reg players not loans. All the players u listed were loans not DR. And while u were trying to be a smart a**s you missed off Jonny Pownall

quite - when Dewsbury beat Fev at our place, they played two from Wakefield, one from Wigan and one from Hull KR. No complaints from me of course, it's all in the rules, but earlier in the year various Dewsbury fans had been on our forum mocking us for using other teams' players. As for the comments about DR/loan players being used instead of reserve teams, Chris Annakin played for Dewsbury against Fev then for Wakefield reserves against Fev reserves just over a week later!

People's mood about DR/multiple loans just seems to change depending on whether they need it at that time or not. Even John Kear, who I like a lot, spoke out against DR lately, yet he was more than happy to use it when he was at Batley (including when they beat Fev in a Championship semi final) and of course Batley almost got relegated under Kear's stewardship when they were deducted three points for a breach of the DR rules before they were controversially let off.

What an absolute mess it all is, talk about divide and fall. The SL clubs must be absolutely wetting theirselves at the rest of us. Time to tell 'em where to go but unfortunately some turkeys have already voted for Christmas haven't they?

Semantics to suit your argument. There's very little difference between DR and loan, the team are still playing lads from another club over their own reserves.
I deliberately missed Pownall because I seem to recall he was bad enough that he didn't really take anyone's place apart from a few bench cameos.

So anyway I hear there's a game on today. Anyone brave enough to make a prediction?