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| Quote ="fatabbott"you sure about that?'"
100%. You'd need to be deluded to think otherwise!
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| Has anyone actually tried to vote with their foot?
I did once, it was hard work and gave me a new found respect for Daniel Day-Lewis.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"That's a load of rubbish and you know it. Our squad, especially in the forwards is capable of a top 5 finish.'"
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"Tosh.'"
agreed. you can't even compare this bunch with past lineups
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You two are either deluded, or know sweet feck all about Rugby League if you believe that they aren't.
Our problem is, either the players won't play for the coach, the coach is poor or something is going on behind the scenes.
When they play, they could easily get top 5. Although you are right in that the squad doesn't match up to past lineups.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"icon_lol.gif
You two are either deluded, or know sweet feck all about Rugby League if you believe that they aren't.
Our problem is, either the players won't play for the coach, the coach is poor or something is going on behind the scenes.
When they play, they could easily get top 5. Although you are right in that the squad doesn't match up to past lineups.'"
i know my stuff. my uncle played for greaat britain
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| Quote ="fatabbott"i know my stuff. my uncle played for greaat britain'"
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| Quote ="fatabbott"i know my stuff. my uncle played for greaat britain'"
Cool, you still clearly know feck all, and you're still deluded.
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| its true. i am the nephew of charlie renilson
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| Quote ="fatabbott"its true. i am the nephew of charlie renilson'"
So? How does that mean you know what you are talking about. Some of the best players ever are useless pundits when it comes to giving their opinion on the game, so being an ex players nephew doesn't give you any elevated status.
You might have the sharpest RL brain there is, but it's nothing to do with who your uncle is.
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| Wind up or not, the sad truth is there are actually some people who agree with this bloke's line of argument. I wonder if they unplug their washing machines when they play up to signal their disapproval and leave them unplugged until they witness an improvement.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"Not turning up will send us further down the path of doom. We need as many people to turn up to keep us running.
Not going isn't the way to do it, otherwise we won't have a club at all.'"
Hear hear
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| Also, the theory that results bring the crowds back seems shaky - can't really ask more than a home win against Leeds, and yet a sub-9k crowd the week after. Those feet don't seem all that adept at voting.
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| Quote ="af"Also, the theory that results bring the crowds back seems shaky - can't really ask more than a home win against Leeds, and yet a sub-9k crowd the week after. Those feet don't seem all that adept at voting.'"
Well we had the most successful season in the club's history in 2003.
And in 2004 the crowds dropped by around 1k, when everyone - including all those on the "better results bring bigger crowds" bus - would have expected an increase.
Funnily enough, the club did too. The budget for 2004 was based on a 1k or more increase in attendances. So that was a loss of over 2000 bodies a week compared to budget. What was the effect on our bottom line? Go figure, but you'd be heading in the direction of £1/4 million.
But that can't be right, cos everyone knows that if you've been successful then your crowds increase?
Apart from in this apathetic city, seemingly.
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| Well they may be playing god awful but I'll still go and cheer if there's cause (and god i hope there is).
Staying away hurts the club financially and as a supporter it doesn't make sense to want to do that.
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| Quote ="Asim"So? How does that mean you know what you are talking about. Some of the best players ever are useless pundits when it comes to giving their opinion on the game, so being an ex players nephew doesn't give you any elevated status.
You might have the sharpest RL brain there is, but it's nothing to do with who your uncle is.'"
he worked as a scout for the sydney roosters for years asim, i think he knows a good player from a bad one
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Well we had the most successful season in the club's history in 2003.
And in 2004 the crowds dropped by around 1k, when everyone - including all those on the "better results bring bigger crowds" bus - would have expected an increase.
Funnily enough, the club did too. The budget for 2004 was based on a 1k or more increase in attendances. So that was a loss of over 2000 bodies a week compared to budget. What was the effect on our bottom line? Go figure, but you'd be heading in the direction of £1/4 million.
But that can't be right, cos everyone knows that if you've been successful then your crowds increase?
Apart from in this apathetic city, seemingly.[/quot
Wakefield fans should read this post,ever since "new ground" was mentioned thur/fri they seem to have it filled up before its been built,this is simply based on their asumption that "we are playing well"+"new ground"=sell out crowds every home game....
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| Quote ="fatabbott"he worked as a scout for the sydney roosters for years asim, i think he knows a good player from a bad one'"
How come none of them ever signed for Souths?
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| I certainly will be voting with my feet ... by trying to get to more games than usual.
Call me a sucker for punishment but the club needs more support not less
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| I think casual supporters are quite good at discerning the general direction in which a team is heading. Many will have watched the Leeds match on Sky, appreciated it for the great effort that it was, but not seen it as the start of better things. That will have been confirmed by the result at Wakey.
In 2004 it became clear very early in the season that the balance of power had shifted to Leeds. Achievements in 2003 soon came to mean little to the casual fan.
By contrast in 1996 it was obvious that the club was the club was moving forwards. There was a feelgood factor which even the victory over Leeds last week couldnt create. Attendances will not recover until there is a general feeling of optimism about the club.
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| Despite how badly we are playing at the moment, I could never stop going to see the lads play. I couldn't go to either of the Catalans games this year due to financial circumstances, and that alone had me all over the place with much anxiety.
Rugby League is my world, if I had my way, I'd be attending 2/3 games a week, but for obvious reasons (Like family commitment etc...) that isn't the case.
Bradford to the end, through the good times and the bad times.
Sure I can be a sore loser and often I will talk crap when we lose, because it hurts. Usually the following day I tend to regret some of the comments I've made.
It would be the ultimate dream if we were to be sitting at the top of the league every season, but let's face it, there's (now) 13 other clubs out there trying to their best to keep their game on the right track.
Each week I live in hope that our turn will come, and that's the hope that keeps me alive during these (many) dark times.
So to turn my back on the club would be too much like betrayal and I wasn't made to betray anyone, let alone the team I have supported for so long............
What's the next step for those that are voting with their feet ?
.......................Deciding on what club to follow instead
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| Quote ="af"I wonder if they unplug their washing machines when they play up to signal their disapproval and leave them unplugged until they witness an improvement.'"
Half right. When my washing machine is playing up I get shut and replace it. I tried leaving it for a year or two but it didn't fix itself.
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| Quote ="Asim"Has anyone actually tried to vote with their foot?
I did once, it was hard work and gave me a new found respect for Daniel Day-Lewis.'"
Perhaps you were trying with your right foot?
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| Not read all the points, but the worst thing that could be done at the moment is not turn up, crowds are desperately low and needs to change. Perhaps changes need to be made but club needs its fans behind it.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Half right. When my washing machine is playing up I get shut and replace it. I tried leaving it for a year or two but it didn't fix itself.'"
When mine plays up I try to fix it.
Then I swear at it.
Then I kick it (and hurt my foot)
Then I go out to the garage and look for that bloody great lump hammer...
Not suggesting that provides a model for how to solve our present problems, but it must have potential?
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