If we leave Odsal and get help to build a new stadium elsewhere, say just down the road at Wyke Manor, then may we ask our fellow fans what capacity stadium we would want to have in order to fulfil our rightful ambition, and the club owner's intention, of once again becoming a top tier Super League club in the near future.

Bradford Council sources, who for obvious reasons cannot be named, recently leaked that a capacity of say 6000 for a new Bulls Stadium should do just fine for us. But what about when we get back in to the Super League?

Also one of our Council compatriots suggested that Bulls fans consider why it is that our current iconic stadium at Odsal appears to have been allowed by the RFL and Bradford Council to gradually go into rack and ruin and also become unsafe for many supporters. Might this have all come about with a murky end scheme in mind?

We understand that the future of Odsal, and rugby league at Odsal, rests in the hands of two ladies - Susan Hinchcliffe (Council Leader) and the unelected Council Chief Executive, Kersten England (a Scot) - and in the hands of the current head lessee, the RFL. We are also told that the Council Chief Executive (England from Scotland !) is known to share a common purpose with the one and only Nigel Wood.

Something appears to be up, and before it's too late we feel that the Bulls fans need to be canvassed for their opinion. As such, we give you the following 3 options to vote upon re our club's future:

1. A small capacity stadium away from Odsal (say 3000 capacity) sufficient for a RL Championship One team, and a National League North football club such as Bradford Park Avenue (BPA) - our new partner!

2. A 6000 capacity stadium away from Odsal sufficient at best for a RL Championship team and BPA, or

3. A much larger (say 50,000 capacity) multi-use stadium at Odsal sufficient for a RL top tier Super League team and for BPA to play at in a much higher football league. This third option could allow rugby league internationals and Challenge Cup semi finals to be played at Odsal and therefore keep the majority of the resulting revenue within the rugby league family. In addition, in order to create further income for Bradford Council Taxpayers and local businesses, major rock concerts and the like can be held at Odsal as an additional and visible revenue stream. Why choose 50,000 you may ask. There is a reason, but that should become apparent over time.

Please vote your preference for options #1, 2 or 3 via a Twitter Poll shown @phildenty1 ... or search Twitter for Phil Denty . If you can please retweet the Twitter Vote to other fans you know and sports fans in general who may, should that be the case, not want to see the end of rugby league at the iconic Odsal stadium. It will of course only be a straw poll, but it will be interesting.

To date nobody such as the Bulls' owner has had the courtesy to offer the choice of the above options to fans of both the Bulls, and BPA, before any final decision is made.

You can of course make your vote in a reply to this thread on this forum. This post and the link to the above Twitter Poll can also be posted on to the various Bulls Facebook supporter sites such as the BB2 Dane Chisholm Appreciation Society and the Bradford Bulls Supporters Group. You can of course also vote on Facebook. If you do not use Twitter ask your supporting friends who follow the Bulls, or BPA, to also vote.

If you wish to pick option 1 or 2 simply because you think that the money to rebuild Odsal (ie say £100M) is not available then please think again as development money is accessible, but disturbingly it is understood that rugby league could soon be shipped out of Odsal (an iconic RL stadium) and dispatched to a far inferior stadium. Further, it could be that there may then be no viable site in Bradford available for a far bigger stadium if necessary that can host a major world leading and renowned rugby league club.

Please ask genuine Bulls (and BPA) fans which of the three options listed above they prefer. This will help stop votes coming in from current RL Fans Forum members who we understand have a vested interest in a murky mixture of the three options detailed above and who may want to unduly influence both the vote outcome AND the future of both clubs destiny, in particular the Bulls, for a reason such as their own benefit.

Despite rumours to the contrary, we ARE Bulls fans.

Watch this space ... and watch this vote @phildenty1

There may be other polls.

Cheers

What a load of b0llocks!

Yes, the options of 3,000, 6,000 or 50,000 make total sense. Somewhere in between those 2 larger figures would just be craziness so clearly not worth mentioning.

Honestly, if this was serious, why is an option of 15,000 or 20,000 not considered? Or is it just because much lower figures like that are clearly so low that nobody would vote for them and therefore you get to swing the vote?

Good grief....just carry on watching your next episodes of Corrie and Emmerdale, and stop boring me with such foolish garbage.
3,000. 6.000 or 50,000 capacities ? Do you realistically think any of these options are viable?
Only "murky mixtures" around are - will Joe Tate be resurrected and who'll be the first to give that hard faced bird one since her break-up from Johnnie ?

Somebody isn’t happy we gained promotion to the championship... plenty of time in the off season to spin rumours.

Yes we need to leave odsal one day or improve it significantly but the purported options are just ridiculous and this person has zero influence over anything making any poll irrelevant.

Also I like how odsal is always described as ‘iconic’... sounds slightly bitter.

My vote is None of the Above.

There's been some garbage posted on here over the years but this beats the lot of em hands down.

Utter garbage.BPA are making plans on spending on improvements at Horsfall which will see them there for years,Bulls home is odsal & will be always. No public stadium even possible at wyke(fall out zone of NuFarm) but council building community training centre.facts Damian Irvine on Twitter. https://twitter.com/damianirvine/status ... 45569?s=19

Utter garbage.BPA are making plans on spending on improvements at Horsfall which will see them there for years,Bulls home is odsal & will be always. No public stadium even possible at wyke(fall out zone of NuFarm) but council building community training centre.facts Damian Irvine on Twitter. https://twitter.com/damianirvine/status ... 45569?s=19

Once again proven you talk rubbish. Can we ban him?

Utter garbage again.

Someone doesn't pay attention to attendances before opening the BS valve...

Terrible effort

Who are "we" beicki?

I'm sorry but it's total rubbish. 3K,6K or 50K? For crying out loud, any genuine supporter would know instantly that not a single one of those suggestions is any use whatever. IF you were a fan, you'd know that the Bulls have had well over 3K in league 1 (around 3K season ticket holders, in fact) and had more than 6K in quite few games when last in the championship - and then you quote 50K! Honestly, I don't know what planet you are on.

tldr

You didn't miss much

50k? Ha ha ha the key to trolling is riding that line between garbage and the truth.

You want them knowing deep down it’s rubbish but with enough of a hint of truth to it to make them think again.

You’ve shot your load on the first post there. The biggest stadium in Yorkshire for a rugby league club? Paid for by the local council? Only field fans would fall for such a far fetched idea.

Even if it wasn't beclki who posted this I'd be calling BS - the scenarios sound like they've been crafted by a bunch of adolescents.

Must be part of the homework.

Given every belcki post is cryptic and the options above absurd, I don't believe they are a concerned fan.

I think we the fans have been through enough over the last few years and shouldn't be used to pursue hidden agendas or the settling of scores. If they hate Chalmers why not have a charity boxing match and leave us out of it.

I’ve noticed the last few posts from belcki it seems to just be the one long cryptic message followed by nothing until they come up if the next one. I think everyone has the right to debate but this one is boring and just spoiling to cause trouble.

Ignore and enjoy the promotion party!!

Theirin lies you're problem.

Good 'how to' piece about trolling and you do post some great posts but you do go on about Wakey far too much. Yes some of our lot are professional trolls, and yes, they did go way over the top when you were in the , but you are out of it now and coming back; we have had our similar troubles and have hopefully left all that behind us. Looking forward to stuffing you in SL in 2-3 years time!

Triggered. I’ve still got it

Maybe Bellendski is onto something. Maybe we have all been too quick to look at their badly spelled posts and jumped to a conclusion that they are some unfunny, conspiratorial troll.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt Bendylicky. I think that these are only three options for a new stadium:

1 - 2 plastic garden patio chairs and a windbreak, on the site where the Peel pub used to be
2 - a badly decayed, round beer garden chair that seats 6 in Brian Nobles back garden (next to the ornamental pool with the gnomes)
3 - the actual Wembley of the north, with sofa seating for half a million and anti-gravity lifts. Floating about 500 feet above Osdal on giant airships.

I'm going to vote for all three. And I have tweeted @phildenty1 to let them know.

Thanks for opening my eyes. Stay woke people!

Also, on a side note, what did @phildenty1/bentekke want to get in contact with Dane Chisholm about so urgently they had to message Rohan Smith? Is his tea ready?

Thank you Damian Irvine for your response of 15 October to our post as placed on Twitter, and copied on to this RL forum. Your words are repeated below:

"[iDamian IrvineVerified account
@damianirvine[/i

[iUtter garbage. Bradford Park Avenue are making plans on spending on improvements at Horsfall which will see them there for years. BULLS HOME IS ODSAL & WILL BE ALWAYS. No public stadium even possible at Wyke (fall out zone of NuFarm) but Council building a community training centre. Facts

12:57 pm - 15 Oct 2018[/i"

Apologies for the slight delay in responding.

It is wonderful to hear from the horse's mouth that Rugby League WILL be played seemingly forever at Odsal stadium. Thank you for your gracious, prompt and truthful admission.

Odsal is not a blight; it is a Bradford asset that will continue to house the wonderful sport of Rugby League.

As you and Bradford Council's head honcho, Kersten England, know there is a problematic clause in the Odsal Head Lease which states that Rugby League need not be played at Odsal after May 2019.

We agree with you that Susan Hinchcliffe, Kersten England and Ralph Rimmer will now continue to do the right thing. We know you Damian want to abide by the fans express wishes (as the 1300 Twitter Poll votes to date confirm) that RL will definitely be played at Odsal forever and a day.

To make sure this will happen after post Spring 2019 we ask that the following be done, and we know that Kersten and Susan will agree. Namely, that Odsal management, the RFL and Bradford Council delete the clause in the Odsal Head Lease that says that Rugby League could end at Odsal in Spring 2019, and as per your promise as above add a new clause to the lease guaranteeing that Rugby League will be played at Odsal for at least the next 50 years. This clause will then protect any owner of the club from land speculators who may see Odsal as one of the prime development sites in the region that could reap profit for some who may possibly have their noses in our trough albeit to the exclusion of Rugby League.

We are now speaking with a common desire, and for many thousands of Bulls supporters, when you and we say that the future of Rugby League at Odsal can be assured.

Please be so kind as to set this in motion now before the present clause expires and publish irrefutable written evidence for all Bulls fans to see that the future of Rugby League at Odsal is guaranteed for at least the next 50 years and we trust the related document signed by the Bulls owner (Mr Chalmers), you, the Head Lessee, and the Council will be published for all to see and registered at the Land Registry.

We trust that Kersten England and Nigel Wood will in particular share in this virtuous Common Purpose.

Once again Damian thanks for your kind and supportive response. You are a star.

P.S. [iWe do have one query re what you said in your above tweet which is at odds with what one of our Council sources tells us. We are told that your new mate, Daniel J from Manchester, has already been given permission by Bradford Council's Kersten England, Julian Jackson and Susan Hinchcliffe to build houses at Horsfall. Belcki would like to put a deposit down on the first plot.[/i