Will Nick get his place in the side when he returns from injury? The present 4 props have done a great job this season. I think he is off contract this year as well.

He's not impressed enough for a new deal, we have better options at prop than him now, spend the money we'd save on a good stand off and get rid of BJ.

No - [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5197/SCRUTON%20EXTENDS%20BULLS%20DEALhe has a deal up to the end of 2014[/url. Of props with first team experience, only he and Kopczak are so far contracted for next year. [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/4939/HARGREAVES%20IN%20BULLS%20SWITCHHargreaves[/url, [url=http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/4939/HARGREAVES%20IN%20BULLS%20SWITCHManuokafoa[/url, Burgess and Joseph are all, I believe, OOC.

And Manuokafoa is caught up in wanting the same overseas spot as Jarrod Sammut, who is only off quota for one season. so it's not such an easy decision. though in truth I don't think Scrutes has been at his best whilst at the club.

Langley was written off last year as always injured and no form when he did play, different again this year and back to his best. Diskin likewise last year played with a shoulder injury for 10 or more games until playoffs were missed, then he had a reconstruction. Was Nick also carrying this one for a while, when you look at his stats for those first few games he was not just a bit but well below previous performance levels, so I am hoping he comes back and blows this topic apart with his performances, and I would certainly want to contract Hargreaves MnM and Tom for next year. O'Brien seems to have had a good game back, at 7 for the u20s, so I am confident of a good end of the season.

Langley was injured often and often playing with injury, but IMO his form was never in question. He's consistent and like a duracell, just keeps going and going. IMO the same cant be said for Nick, if he was OOC I wouldn't like to see him offered a new one and I would like to see the Bulls try and offload him anyway. Surely his wages are extortionate for the value he offers, which is little to none IMHO.

Scruton is one of a few players on big money and long deals that haven't really given value for money, despite injuries.

Sorting out the squad so we get full value out of the cap is a big priority for the new regime.

By all accounts Scruton has now paid off his mortgage due to his vastly improved contract which was offered by the Bulls in order to tempt him away from the Rhinos
All he needs now is a bit of money to live off each week,and if you don't re-sign him then i'd bet that quite a few clubs will provide him with this required income
Sadly Scrutes will prove to be yet another ex Rhinos player that left the club for money and will end up at a club at the basement of sl
I hope that the Bulls keep him because he could still yet prove to be an excellent pack leader, if he stays injury free

Re-sign him on a lower wage, not much lower mind maybe £10,000, then use that on players like Addy, Burgess etc.

£10,000 lower my apologise.

That £10,000 reduction would still be an £80,000 per year contract

well take it to £60,000/£70,000.

Why would he want to sign a contract on a reduced wage if he already has two further years to go? Only way he would sign a reduced deal would be if we offered him a long term contract, which given his injuries recently wouldn't be very clever either IMO.

I don't really understand why anyone thinks Scruton is going to throw away his current contract and sign another one on significantly less money.

I mean, why would he?

Dint realise he had a few more years :/

Depends how much game time he thinks/is told he's going to get. TBH, IMO he's just a back up player now. All 4 current first team squads are all better.

On his most recent form I'd agree but Scutes has been better in the past than his recent form suggests, and may be again once he is clear of injury and back up to match fitness. To be honest we don't know what position we are going to be in at the end of the season, neither on the financial situation or on a which players actually [iwant [/i to re-sign. The competition for spots does no-one any harm though, so let it continue.

I liked Scrutes as a player when he was at his best (HKR at home a couple of years ago rings a bell) but i'm not sure if he'll be able to get to that level again.

Hope he does though as he's had a horrid time with injuries.

Needs to find some form.. and quick. or ship him out. Wakey Halequins, Salford would have him

"Ship him out"???? He's got to want to leave. How do you manage to make that happen?

the stats just do not show that. Langleys stats in 2011 were all worse than 2010, carries and metres much more so than tackles per game, and they have picked back up again this season. He played just over half the games last season, but had about 3 or 4 injuries and never got back to the top of his game because of the interruptions. I do agree that when he plays, even if not at his best, he improves the team. Nicks stats show a similar trend 2010 to 2011, but Langleys improved in 2012 whereas Nicks took a major nosedive, right from round 1. the stats do not show how long he spent on the pitch, but if he was doing a full stint then Toms stats were about as good and people were complaining at the start of the season that he was hardly spending any time on the pitch. So that leads me to conclude that either the shoulder condition was chronic and he was played cautiously, or diabetes has had a significant impact upon him. And I hope that it is the former. So two scenarios: he has to retire due to diabetes, and what I hope happens, he gets back from injury and back to his best, just like Langley.

A fit Scuton would be a boost to our pack. His form of last year and this would mean he would struggle to get into the 17 barring those dreaded injuries!!

Agreed, an enervated Scruton would be an asset, and a 5th prop is essential to cover at least minor injuries and rotation.
It would be unreasonable to comment on Scuton's worth until we see him play again.
Maybe he can be the player he was, maybe not. It's up to him and all fans should hope he gets back to his best.

Let's see what he's like when he comes back from injury. Bit unfair to call him when he hasn't got the chance to try and change your mind.

Get him out, massive wage earner but sadly very crap and has been a total let down these last 3 seasons. So overrated it's unbelievable. Not a chance of him getting into the bulls team while the 4 current props are doing so well
He wasn't wanted by Leeds due to his constant injuries and his dodgy wrist (which has been operated on twice since Leeds got rid!)