www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/586 ... RY%20PANEL Grade D

www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/586 ... RY%20PANEL Grade D

What does grade D mean?

Needs to calm down abit only just got off a ban

No, it's the worst case offence. 8-10 matches apparently.

Not sure where you've got that from but grade D is 3-5 matches.

Worse than Rangi Chase's offence was graded at.

Think someone needs to look at the gradings!

This is f*cking pathetic.

From looking at it it appeared he picked Hodgson up and than slammed him down again. Hodgson was more or less in a kind of sitting position, it seemed to hurt him, albeit very temporarily, but no harm was done and nobody ran in to remonstrate with Bateman which they would have done had it been a bad one.

If he gets a ban it's way OTT in my book. Maybe a warning to take more care but to be guilty of a grade D suggests he set out to cause real damage.

How it is graded as worse than Chase's "tackle" is beyond me.

Baffling really.

Looking at the grading structure they've classed Rangi's as 'reckless' and Bateman's as 'intentional' which is why Bateman has copped a higher grade. Although, personally I would have had chase as intentional striking with the elbow and down at E-F.

Yeah, they appear to have pinged him for 'Dangerous Throw - Throwing player into the ground' which carries a grade of D-E.

Wasn't really a throw though was it? In fact I'd say there wasn't much in it.

As Melbourne Storm CEO Chris Johns said once after a suspension given to Stephen Kearney "we might as well all start wearing skirts".

I made it up for comedy effect.

He seems to drop his whole body weight onto Hodgson's head/kneck. It could have seriously injured Hodgson, though I'm sure that wasn't the intention. IIRC he is not looking at Hodgson when he commits the act which would suggest not deliberate.

Jeff Lima:
"Incident considered Dangerous Contact on 41st minute (Moa)
Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Player places some weight on opponent’s neck/shoulder however then makes room for opponent’s head. Are significant contributions from attacking player and fellow defender in dynamics of tackle MRP - NFA"

All Bateman was trying to do was get the tackled player down on the floor. It loooked far worse than it was, and unless Bateman has a step in his chest, the only pressure on the neck/head will have been from the back rather than from the top.

Bateman was holding the player legitimately, he was trying to bring him to ground legitimately, it was just that due to the position the tackled player was putr in at that moment by Bateman, himself, and the other tackler he was lined up in a sort of sitting up configuartion. It was a silly thing to do, and he won't use that "technique again" but a telling off would be more than ample. As for Grade D? Absolutely ridiculous.

You see this type of tackle every week. Why pick one instance out? The only thing that needs to come out from this is greater clarity of what is and is not acceptable! Look at people trying to dislodge a ball with their feet as a try is being scored. It happens regularly but rarely is it penalised!

In over 30 years I am struggling to remember a tackle like that.

The only reason it's up before the beak is due to the stoppage in play. Had Hodgson been one of the "bigger" guys on the park I don't think the injury would have occurred. It wasn't clever, but it wasn't intentional either.

Sell him....misses more games than Langely

It's the 'intentional' part of it that baffles me.

OK, dangerous it may well have been, but there was not a jot of intent in that. Bizarre.

Hmmm a tackle technique you'll see half a dozen times in a game (the player offended against scoring a vital try 2 minutes later) is a Grade D offence but leathering someone in the face with your elbow resulting in them requiring surgery and puts them out for four months is a Grade C offence?

Ask Brett Hodgson what he'd rather have been on the receiving end of. I'm sure he'd be much happier right now eating his food through a straw.

Wonder if John Bateman was wanted by Steve McNamara for the Exiles matches he'd be looking at a grade C offence or less? Of course not that would be unthinkable.

Details now up on RFL website:

"Incident considered Dangerous contact in 36th minute (Hodgson)
Decision Charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Law: 15.1(i) Detail: Defending player, in or after effecting a tackle, uses any part of his body forcefully to bend or apply unnecessary pressure to the head and/or neck and/or spinal column of the tackled player so as to keep the tackled player at a disadvantage in or after the tackle Grade: D MRP - Referred to tribunal
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* 3-5 matches"

This makes it as clear as mud.
15.1(i) is "(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.". The detail quoted in the citation is not in the rules.

15.1 (b) is the closest:
"when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly."

The choice of wording is therefore weird and inexplicable. Am I missing something? It reads as if they are quoting froma rule, which says such things - but it doesn't!?! Can you be up before the beak for a rule they just made up?!?

Well put and bang on from an arm chair neutral on Saturday (thats me BTW)

Rugby league has now become a non contact sport.

It is the job of the panel to judge intent I would have thought. Is intent relevant? Bridge could claim he had no intent of breaking Jeffries jaw when he dropped his forearm on the ball in the previous game, Chase must have been judged not to deliberately smash whatshisface's jaw.

Is this a joke...that tackle is deemed to be worth 3-5 games? Deary me. As Badger said, if there hadn't have a pause in the game I doubt there would have been anything said about the tackle. It didn't look intentional to me, why would it have been? There certainly didn't appear to be any verbals between the two players beforehand.

Didn't Bateman give him a sort of pat/tap on the back afterwards? Didn't seem to be any malice and the ref didn't even call a penalty. How can a tackle warranting a 3-5 game ban not warrant a penalty? Madness.

fev didnt get a penalty for rangis effort on ropati! thats what the on report system is used for when the ref suspects something has happened but didnt see it!

and the fact that hodgson wasnt injured has nothing to do with it, it is the fact that he could of been injured and any contact or undue pressure on the neck has always been illegal in this game.

personally i think yes it was a bad tackle but more poor technique than intent and a ban of 1-2 games would of sufficed to give him some cooling of time and chance to work on technique