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| yeah just had email about that - any ideas why???
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| Has any incoming coach ever taken a scythe to a squad in the manner Potter has approached the Bulls?
Viva Mick Potter - it's a revolution alright!
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| hopefully we never saw the best of him because he came with a lot of pedigree. a bit of a shame he couldn't put it right under the new regime but we're not short of second rowers so a quota spot used there is not much use.
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| Quote ="phillgee"hopefully we never saw the best of him because he came with a lot of pedigree. a bit of a shame he couldn't put it right under the new regime but we're not short of second rowers so a quota spot used there is not much use.'"
Agree with that. Think hall would have had a big season this year but there's weaker areas in squad we can use quota spot on. And more importantly at moment we've taken away a lot of orfords leverage.
Presumably we've had to pay hall off. Anyone know how that payment will be counted on salary cap?
All on this years or spread over remainder of his deal?
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| A shame that we never saw him at his best. I'm sure everyone wishes him and his wife well with their pregnancy following the tragedy they suffered before. Only speculating but being back home in Australia would seem a better place to be for peace of mind and family support.
Good luck Glenn.
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| Quote ="mcnamara-fan"yeah just had email about that - any ideas why???'"
1) We can use the quota spot elsewhere.
2) He wants to go back to Australia.
3) He was sh*te.
I think that about sums it up?
I know he came with pedigree and I know he had some circumstances that may have affected things. I also know he wasn't played in his best position. But he did play a little second row, and he was still crap. I was hoping he'd improve this year, but him leaving is a better result IMO. Yeah, he may have come good. But did we want to waste another year waiting to find out? Personally, no.
All the best to him back in Australia, but I do think this is the best thing for our club.
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| Quote ="mat"Agree with that. Think hall would have had a big season this year but there's weaker areas in squad we can use quota spot on. And more importantly at moment we've taken away a lot of orfords leverage.
Presumably we've had to pay hall off. Anyone know how that payment will be counted on salary cap?
All on this years or spread over remainder of his deal?'"
Spread from my reading of the Operational Rules.
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| Quote ="mat"Presumably we've had to pay hall off.'"
It's mentioned in the T&A article that we have agreed compensation.
Personally I think after his performances last year, he should have owed US money.....
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| He never looked the player we all expected and wanted him to be. Poor coaching, carrying injuries, personal issues, who knows?
From memory he didn't say too much in the press and moan about things - kept himself to himself. He turned up with the youngsters for pre-season. He didn't perform on the pitch but I admire his attitude off the pitch in that respect. Hope he finds a club in Aus and he and his wife have no problems with their future arrival.
As I stated on the rumours thread - not too surprised, as we had to find a way to get Herbert on the quota. With Orford still being "registered" we had to release someone. If we can sort Orford quickly (which I doubt given the recent developments of certain solicitors becoming involved) we would have a quota space available if someone becomes available.
Until we release Orford though, I wouldn't get too excited about anyone coming in on quota. A non quota player could come in though.....but doubt Leon!
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| It was a real shame that Hall was so rubbish really. He came with a good pedigree, and when I first watched him in the Boxing Day friendly at Cas, he looked very much the workhorse that would spend 60 minutes of every game tackling his knackers off. From all accounts, he was a star behind the scenes too, with complete professionalism and a well liked bloke. It would also have been nice for it to work out for him considering the tragedy he had just before coming over.
Personally I don't think the change of position was as big a factor as some make out, as even with that change, he should have performed better (and longer) than he did. But whatever the reason, it's quite clear that it didn't work out. Regardless of what happened on the pitch though, you can't fail to wish him all the best in his future career and more importantly the best of luck with the future birth of his young 'un. Thoroughly decent bloke who had a very bad year all round that he didn't deserve.
Release should be the best thing for all parties.
Oh, and I never realised he was married to Kylie. We should have had her do some pre-match entertainment
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| Quote ="mcnamara-fan"yeah just had email about that - any ideas why???'"
Maybe because he was shi-ite?
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| I imagine that the compensation would be minimal - I get the feeling that this is a genuine 'mutual consent'. He wants to go back and we are happy for him to do so.
Maybe a couple of months pay to tide him over until he finds a club.
Thanks for the effort Glenn and thanks for conducting yourself with such dignity, when others in a similar position have failed so spectacularly on this front.
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| That try though. And that 'tache!
Best of luck to him.
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| I wonder why he left it so late to make up his mind to leave ?
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| I liked Glen Hall and I will never forget that try against Wigan. I thought he suffered in a struggling team where he was being asked to take a different and perhaps unexpected role and we never quite saw the best of him. I hope he manages to make a success of things back in the NRL and wish him and his wife all the luck in the world with the new addition when s/he comes along.
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| CASH CRISIS...SIMPLE AS THAT....DOLLAR TO THE POUND IS TOO STRONG
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| I liked Glen if we had had better coaching last year he would have been a awesome, all the best to him and his wife on Oz
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Spread from my reading of the Operational Rules.'"
Doesn't count on the cap at all I don't think, as long as it was before this season started you can pay off a player, it's exactly what Warrington have done with Hicks, people were sceptical about it being allowed but then someone found it stated in the rules somewhere.
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| I expected better but sadly it didn't work out for him. The timing of this and Or**rd messing us about also means we lost Beaver
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| Best of luck to Glenn. Might not have set the world alight during his spell at Bradford, but we'll always have Wigan to remember him by.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Doesn't count on the cap at all I don't think, as long as it was before this season started you can pay off a player, it's exactly what Warrington have done with Hicks, people were sceptical about it being allowed but then someone found it stated in the rules somewhere.'"
Its set out in section 6.1 of Part E1 of the Jan 2010 Operational Rules.
The clause that MAY have a bearing on this is E1 6.1.4. This provides that where termination takes place before the first salary cap relevant match of the salary cap year, then the termination payment may be disregarded for salary cap purposes for "subsequent" salary cap years. HOWEVER, when you go on to read the explanatory notes, it is not completely clear whether you have to still hold a salary cap value for the CURRENT salary cap year - and remember, the salary cap year starts 1 December. It also clarifies this exemption by saying "i.e before the club has had the opportubnity to receive ANY playing services from the player" (my emphasis). I have always read this as meaning that you can discount any termination sums paid if the guy has NOT YET PLAYED for you - and therefore Hall would not fall within the terms of this exemption. But it is not at all clear whether this provision applies anew each salary cap year, or applies only at the start of a playing contract. I have read it as being the latter, but maybe someone else can go read this whole section and comment? I think this is the provision to which you refer. And I am not convinced with how it is being interpreted, to be honest.
What 6.1.2 DOES make clear is that where you terminate a player part-way through a contract, then you disregard his original salary cap value but replace it with the value of his termination settlement (or the compensation award if it goes to tribunal - 6.1.5), spread over the rest of his contract. Even though he is no longer registered with the club. That was why all those who shrieked that we should just sack the Unspreakable One did not know what they were saying.
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| Quote ="anarkik"I liked Glen Hall and I will never forget that try against Wigan. I thought he suffered in a struggling team where he was being asked to take a different and perhaps unexpected role and we never quite saw the best of him. I hope he manages to make a success of things back in the NRL and wish him and his wife all the luck in the world with the new addition when s/he comes along.'"
This.
I'm not sorry to see him go, as I think it's best for both parties really, just a shame we didn't really see the best out of him other than glimpses for whatever reasons. All the best Glenn and good luck for the future.
It simplifies our quota position regarding the Orford/Herbert situation and once Orford disappears up his own it gives us some flexibility to recruit using the quota if required.
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