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| 4 from Warrington!!! (1 being Bridge????)
Syksie????
Lee Smith gets a place and he's offsky to RU, how is that looking to the future?
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| Bridge, Smith, Crabtree, Carvell.
See ya later four nations!
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| Quote ="tristram"Lee Smith gets a place and he's offsky to RU, how is that looking to the future?'"
Perhaps Tony thinks he'll be back in RL eventually?
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"Perhaps Tony thinks he'll be back in RL eventually?'"
And if he does, pick him then. Picking him for this is stupid.
On the plus side, he's left Leon out.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"And if he does, pick him then. Picking him for this is stupid.
On the plus side, he's left Leon out.'"
And Burrow - no complaints from me though. Surprised he went for Smith but not Senior though.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bridge, Smith, Crabtree, Carvell.
See ya later four nations!'"
Smith deserves it IMO, the only question mark over him is that he's going to RU.
Sykes on the other hand - a turnstile all season according to many people on this board. I doubt he'll get a look in at stand-off. Agree re: Bridge and Crabtree though. Carvell can be decent.
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| If Smith's available then he should be picked.
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| Sykes doesn't deserve to be in the squad. He's clearly there on utility value, but he's not good enough to displace any in those positions.
Lee Smith IMO should not be picked. He's going to a different sport and I don't see why he should be considered. We should be looking at players who could potentially play there next year and the year after, not someone who's going to the dark side as soon as he's finished up here.
I am liking the lack of Pryce & Wellens though. Much prefer to see Briscoe & Tomkins playing there.
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| Surprised Diskin isn't in that squad.
The backline doesn't look great at all. Shows just how we've struggled to bring through any decent backs.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Sykes doesn't deserve to be in the squad. He's clearly there on utility value, but he's not good enough to displace any in those positions.
Lee Smith IMO should not be picked. He's going to a different sport and I don't see why he should be considered. We should be looking at players who could potentially play there next year and the year after, not someone who's going to the dark side as soon as he's finished up here.
I am liking the lack of Pryce & Wellens though. Much prefer to see Briscoe & Tomkins playing there.'"
Disagree on Smith. The coach has got to pick a side to be competitive and Lee Smith's arguably the best centre available. Ok so he's off to union but why make things even harder for ourselves by not picking him. It'd be like cutting off our nose to spite our face. We've been doing stuff like this for years so it's refreshing to me to see us pick someone on merit.
We can still blood untried centres in the other centre position if we want such as Shenton or hopefully Eastmond.
Briscoe at fullback doesn't inspire me with any confidence but he's probably the best we've got.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Disagree on Smith. The coach has got to pick a side to be competitive and Lee Smith's arguably the best centre available. Ok so he's off to union but why make things even harder for ourselves by not picking him. It'd be like cutting off our nose to spite our face. We've been doing stuff like this for years so it's refreshing to me to see us pick someone on merit.'"
It depends what the purposes of this are. If we're looking short term and all we want to do is win the Four Nations, then fine, pick him.
If we're looking to getting players ready so when the next World Cup comes around, they've got international experience and we can challenge, it's pointless. Although I suppose you could argue the same about players knocking on a bit.
I don't think we're especially short of centres (although I'm sure Atkins & Yeaman being unavailable has forced the hand a little) and I would have thought we could have chosen someone else and not made a great deal of difference to the quality. From that, I'd pick Shenton, Bridge & Eastmond ahead of him in the centres, but that's purely because there is more benefit from them playing than Smith.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"It depends what the purposes of this are. If we're looking short term and all we want to do is win the Four Nations, then fine, pick him.
If we're looking to getting players ready so when the next World Cup comes around, they've got international experience and we can challenge, it's pointless. Although I suppose you could argue the same about players knocking on a bit.
I don't think we're especially short of centres (although I'm sure Atkins & Yeaman being unavailable has forced the hand a little) and I would have thought we could have chosen someone else and not made a great deal of difference to the quality. From that, I'd pick Shenton, Bridge & Eastmond ahead of him in the centres, but that's purely because there is more benefit from them playing than Smith.'"
Well playing the Four Nations isn't a warm up IMO. It's the pinnacle of the game when it's not world cup year and so IMO you have to pick the strongest side available. Smith's the only one out of Bridge, Shenton and Eastmond with any experience of playing Australia or New Zealand. As a result I'd pick him as we're looking a bit too light on experience.
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| Looking at the squad for the Wales game by the way, looks like Sykes will probably be playing fullback for it.
No other fullbacks in the squad except perhaps Bridge or Ratchford who have played there very occasionally.
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| Is the Wales game on the telly?
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| Quote ="Mission"Is the Wales game on the telly?'"
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| When you compare our likely 1-7 against Aus it is very very worrying. We might well match them up front but Aus have an unbelievable bunch of backs. We will need to be at the top of our game to even get close to the Aussie IMO.
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| I tend to use [url=http://www.wheresthematch.com/this[/url.
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| Sykes playing Full Back ! Sean O'loughlin playing centre!
Paul Sykes (Bradford); Peter Fox (Hull KR), Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC); Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Richard Myler (Salford); Adrian Morley (Warrington, capt), Scott Moore (Huddersfield), Garreth Carvell (Warrington), Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Sam Burgess (Bradford). Replacements: Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook (Harlequins), Mickey Higham (Warrington), Chris Bridge (Warrington), Danny Tickle (Hull FC).
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| Quote ="MQBlank"Sykes playing Full Back ! Sean O'loughlin playing centre!
Paul Sykes (Bradford); Peter Fox (Hull KR), Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Michael Shenton (Castleford), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC); Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Richard Myler (Salford); Adrian Morley (Warrington, capt), Scott Moore (Huddersfield), Garreth Carvell (Warrington), Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers), Ben Westwood (Warrington), Sam Burgess (Bradford). Replacements: Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook (Harlequins), Mickey Higham (Warrington), Chris Bridge (Warrington), Danny Tickle (Hull FC).'"
1 prop on the bench?
O'Loughlin centre & Sykes FB ?
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Sam Burgess (Bradford)'"
Was it all a bad dream.....
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Was it all a bad dream.....'"
They use the previous seasons.
Myler - Salford
Burgess - Bradford
LMS - Quins
Instead of Souths, Wire and Bulls 
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| I'm not sure about it, but don't SL contracts run until Dec 1? In which case, technically, Burgess would still be a Bulls player. (Hmmm, I wonder who is insuring him through the 4 nations?)
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