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| Quote ="Blotto"If Smithy doesn't want him I doubt Macca will either!
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Why? Can't McNamara think for himself or something?
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No need to express surprise: as all the world knows, Macca does not need to think for himself.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"No need to express surprise: as all the world knows, Macca does not need to think for himself.
He has the armchair expert on here to do it for him.
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And clearly in this case the armchair expert is Blotto. Or did you not notice that as you picked thoroughly through the thread with your one eye?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"No need to express surprise: as all the world knows, Macca does not need to think for himself.'"
I've heard this one too. Apparently the assistants call all the shots and have the real power. Macca is just a figurehead due to his ability to come across well in the media.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Why? Can't McNamara think for himself or something?'"
Whilst I have learned to ignore most of your , I strongly object to you diverting this thread, which is about Willie Mason FFS, into yet another vehicle for your McNamara barbs, and boring, repetitive spats.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Whilst I have learned to ignore most of your poop, I strongly object to you diverting this thread, which is about Willie Mason FFS, into yet another vehicle for your McNamara barbs, and boring, repetitive spats.'"
Except that is not what I did in the slightest. Blotto claimed that McNamara would not want him because someone else did not. I simply asked if McNamara was incapable of making up his own mind about a player rather than just listen to the opinion of others.
Therefore, you, once again, are making things up and I strongly object to you making up a load of nonsense in order to suit your own flawed point.
What I find even more odd is that your big bumchum, the accountant who has such issues with "dishonest" people, continues to beat the same drum as you, who is probably the most dishonest member of this forum with your constant made up claims on here.
Perhaps you should get you facts right before you start spouting off in the future and if it is your intention, along with yer mate and helped in no small part by one of the most unimpartial moderators I have ever seen on a message board, to drive me away from here then you should prepare to be disappointed.
Now continue to feed your own ego as much as you like but trying a bit of honesty would be a refreshing change.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Except that is not what I did in the slightest. Blotto claimed that McNamara would not want him because someone else did not. I simply asked if McNamara was incapable of making up his own mind about a player rather than just listen to the opinion of others.
Therefore, you, once again, are making things up and I strongly object to you making up a load of nonsense in order to suit your own flawed point.
What I find even more odd is that your big bumchum, the accountant who has such issues with "dishonest" people, continues to beat the same drum as you, who is probably the most dishonest member of this forum with your constant made up claims on here.
Perhaps you should get you facts right before you start spouting off in the future and if it is your intention, along with yer mate and helped in no small part by one of the most unimpartial moderators I have ever seen on a message board, to drive me away from here then you should prepare to be disappointed.
Now continue to feed your own ego as much as you like but trying a bit of honesty would be a refreshing change.'"
Don't like how the board is moderated? Have no fear, you are welcome to take your custom elsewhere.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"helped in no small part by one of the most unimpartial moderators I have ever seen on a message board...'"
So let me get this straight. You're unhappy about a moderator, when your post has stayed here for hours, despite containing gratuitous name-calling, homophobic abuse and baseless accusations of lying, as well (usually most heinous of all) as criticism of the moderation process?
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| Quote ="MDF"So let me get this straight. You're unhappy about a moderator, when your post has stayed here for hours, despite containing gratuitous name-calling, homophobic abuse and baseless accusations of lying, as well (usually most heinous of all) as criticism of the moderation process?'"
Indeed. Couldn't have put it better.
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| Andrew are you the most unimpartial mod or is it Sam?
Should I stay as I am or take sides? If the lad is feeling hard done by I could always wade in on his behalf and balance it out a bit.
BENDERS!
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| Whilst I really dont want to get more involved in this thread than this one comment, I would say that to be fair to ME when I read the original thread, ME's comment seemed a fair responce to Blottos comment on McNamara to me. I know ME obviously has form for his comments on McNamara, but in this case I think his rep has put a spin on how people have read his responce that probably was not intended in this case.
I took the comment to be, "surely Mcnamara can make his own mind up about Willie Mason and would not have to rely on following Smith's view. Why are you suggesting he can't?"
If ME meant it to be another dig (which I know he is prone to) It didn't come across as one to myself, and he was not the one responsible for thread drift in this case.
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Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making any judgement on any ME comment or responce to ME comments before or after that one comment that sparked this latest bout of handbags.
...carry on...I'll go back to sitting on the fence like Shaggoth 
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| Quote ="Duckman"Whilst I really dont want to get more involved in this thread than this one comment, I would say that to be fair to ME when I read the original thread, ME's comment seemed a fair responce to Blottos comment on McNamara to me. I know ME obviously has form for his comments on McNamara, but in this case I think his rep has put a spin on how people have read his responce that probably was not intended in this case.
I took the comment to be, "surely Mcnamara can make his own mind up about Willie Mason and would not have to rely on following Smith's view. Why are you suggesting he can't?"
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Yep, spot on.
Glad someone noticed.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"..I simply asked if McNamara was incapable of making up his own mind about a player rather than just listen to the opinion of others...'"
Yeah, right, it was a genuine and innocent question.  Do you actually convince yourself of these weird things?
Quote ="mystic eddie"..Therefore, you, once again'"
Your favourite means of lying. Make a claim which is false in the first place, and then bolster it by using the word "again". Don't worry, nobody notices you doing this.
Quote ="mystic eddie"..What I find even more odd is that your big bumchum,'"
Your ugly, dirty homophobic slip is showing- AGAIN. What a nasty piece of work you are.
Quote ="mystic eddie". constant made up claims '"
What does 'constant' mean? Oh yes - it's another way of making a bogus claim and bolstering it with a variant of 'Again'. But don't worry, nobody notices you doing this.
Quote ="mystic eddie"Perhaps you should get you facts right before you start spouting off in the future '"
I made no "claim". I pointed out your thread derailment. Which remains posted for all to see.
Quote ="mystic eddie" and if it is your intention, ... to drive me away from here then you should prepare to be disappointed.'"
 Like I give a flying one! How deluded in your own sense of self-importance you are. The fact that I 99% ignore you disproves any such bogus theory doesn't it? Or are you such a tender heart that ONE - yes one single - complaint about a thread derailment by you constitutes a "campaign to drive you away"?
Quote ="mystic eddie" Now continue to feed your own ego as much as you like but trying a bit of honesty would be a refreshing change.'" Classic ME, finish off with bogus insults, while trying to claim the moral high ground.
But wait - why am I talking to a homophobic whinger? I don't know. Off you go into my Mondo Pita dustbin, you disingenuous wart - 'fredie' has been all alone in there for too long now.
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| Quote ="MDF"So let me get this straight. You're unhappy about a moderator, when your post has stayed here for hours, despite containing gratuitous name-calling, homophobic abuse and baseless accusations of lying, as well (usually most heinous of all) as criticism of the moderation process?'"
Baseless? Barring the fact that FA's post was just completely made up you mean?
Duckman saw my post for what it was and if people are gonna be completely incorrect in their assumptions and have a pop for it then I am entitled to make my feelings clear.
I accept that Adey and FA are untouchable on here but they were both completely wrong in this instance and how they can see it any other way is beyond me.
Unless, of course, they were deliberately trying to provoke?
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| I echoe Duckmans fine words.
ME should not criticise the mods though I have found them to be very tolerant and worldly in my time here.
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| Incidentally, I'm also with Duckman on this. That's exactly how I read it too. It wasn't ME that took it off topic and diverted it to the war this time.
That being said, that's the last I'll bother reading of this thread now. Can't be bothered with it.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"
I made no "claim". I pointed out your thread derailment. Which remains posted for all to see.
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Yep, and all can see that you are talking rubbish.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"It was "bumchum" that got me going. '"
No it was not. I posted that AFTER you had a dig for no reason whatsoever. More made up nonsense.
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| You two need to relieve your sexual frustrations... get a room and give him a bloody good bashing FA 
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Baseless? Barring the fact that FA's post was just completely made up you mean?
Duckman saw my post for what it was and if people are gonna be completely incorrect in their assumptions and have a pop for it then I am entitled to make my feelings clear.
I accept that Adey and FA are untouchable on here but they were both completely wrong in this instance and how they can see it any other way is beyond me.
Unless, of course, they were deliberately trying to provoke?'"
You have a beef about thread derailment. This is based on an entirely reasonable assumption that you were misinterpreted. There wouldn't be the slightest problem in making your "feelings clear" that you had been misunderstood. It happens both ways, you know. It was clear to me at the time that the post by Adey that sparked one of your largest eruptions was not even aimed at you, but at a certain multi-aliased poster.
I can't however, see where anyone (and there are no untouchables on this) gets the entitlement to bandy terms like "bumchum" or to question the integrity of moderators who have not even been involved in the thread up to that point.
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