[url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sportbulls/sportbullsheadlines/4463049.Sheriffe_feels_robbed_by_linesman/think he's making a bit of a big thing of it personally.[/url

I think he is as well. The touch judges flag went up pretty quickley.

We were standing about 20 feet away and he was over the line before he got the ball down

Hey, he's done an article about it, that must mean it counts as six tries.

Probably is making a bit of a scene, but I'm glad someone has said something about Bentham's refereeing as he was just poor for both sides. He gave decisions that weren't there and missed an awful lot.

Either that, or he followed the "Rugby League rules according to Stuart Cummings" a tad too well.

there is a penalty in ever play if the ref wants to find one. if the refs blew for everything there would be 60 pens in a game. we dont want that.

but sherief is cluching at straws here, because if the game at odsal wasnt on sky you would have lost that game too!

Still bitter? Let it go....

I was about 120 yards away and it looked like a try to me.

So you're arguing we might have won this one if it had been on Sky?

no i said you would have lost that one too meaning both games lost by the bulls reread my post

I thought you were suggesting that because the Odsal game was on Sky, the correct decisions were made and the Bulls won the match, whereas on Friday Sky weren't present, meaning the wrong decisons were made and the Bulls ended losing, therefore meaning you concurred with Sheriffe? Still I suppose it's easy to get confused...

im not bitter iut just shows how the vid ref can change a game!! i think the vid ref was bang on on the night re the leeds no trys at odsel.

the only gripe with the vid ref was newton making a blatent of the ball obstruction for beavers try on jjb which he ignored and when smith called forward pass for the hall no try and the sin bin for ablett when the player was never held! but some ya get some ya dont!

personally i think a team has to take the ref out of the game and get the job done whatever the bloke in the middle is calling. as leeds always end up on the wrong side of a pen count we seem to be able to do this for the most part.

yeah i had a good look at the sheriffe try and the coner flag went before the ball got down. a frame by frame reply may tell a different story but the same could be said for the mcguire no try when bulls dropped the ball, sini passed it back to mcguire but bentham blew knock on!!

if the vid ref was in play at that game i have no doubt bentham would have let play run and have a look after!! thems the brakes!!

Yer man Slapnamara was looking the other way but he saw it being grounded as well and told everybody he had so it must have been

Think it's been said about the TJ not Bentham. If the TJ tells Bentham it was in touch he's hardly going to overrule him and give the try is he.

To be fair he's not going to say the linesman got it right and we were beaten by the better team now was he.

anyway now back to the joynt voluntary tackle............

This is ace stuff Mr Wilko. If I'm reading your opinion right you think that the referee can find something to penalise in every play, so it's basically entirely down to the mood of the ref which he chooses to penalise, and also that the video ref making cleaner, better decisions could lead to the elimination of pure luck in games an so is a bad thing.

If I were you I'd start going to watch a coin toss each week as it will leave you with a couple of extra hours and not frustrate you so much.

He's trying to cover himself. Not only was he in touch, but he also dropped the ball in his deperate act to get the ball down.

not sure what you are on about!! I'm no frustrated with the game at all. I just understand it!!?

You hear the very best pundits, sterlo and Gould talk about there Been a penalty in every play and you hear coaches talk about it too!! It's all about the refs using common sense!! If the refs ref to the letter of the law there would be a stupid amount of pens!! As the great gus Gould says that the rules are only a guide line! I think the refs do a great job in keeping our game flowing when gamesmanship is such an important part of the game especially around the ruck!!

Are you saying you don't think the game is like this?? If you don't then you are wrong because far superior rugby minds than our think it is!!

The IGJ didn't think that.

He didn't need to indicate it, because the touch judge already put his flag up straight away for in touch.

I sit in the Carnegie seats and was above that, with a clear view, he almost threw the ball down.

My apologies, I'd understood your comments as suggesting that the interpretation of the ref / video ref were the pivotal features of the leeds v bradford games this season, that this element of luck is just fine and that we all just had to get over it.
This may be the case but personally I hope for more from the game, hard though I acknowledge the ref's job to be.

I'm also occasionally critical of pundits too.

I know the bloke I asked him after the game what he would have done and he said he would have said try.

i sit in the carnegie stand and he was def in touch before he got the ball down. if he had dived low instead of making it look good he would have got in no problem

So am I but I'm not talking about eddie and stevo or ray French!! peter sterling and gus Gould know the game inside out!!