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| Wont be retained.
think squad will be summat like:
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halley new deal
crookes
nero 1
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sykes new deal
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burgess
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menzies 2 new deal
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gives us 4 overseas,
tadulala, jefferies, lynch, newton, solomona,james to go, give a new deal to straugheir and donaldson as well.
Saves a fair wedge on cap but no new signings, dont think we need any just for sake of it..but if we could get andy kain off of fev, fuifui moimoi or steve price, david williams or steve turner..or even go big and try and get lockyer for sykes and move sykes to centres and crookes on bench.
But think alot of the big name players off contract is aus will stay over there..if we can get another big name then good..but dont need to go for sake of it.
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| Quote ="ritz"Wont be retained.
think squad will be summat like:
platt
halley new deal
crookes
nero 1
sherriffe
sykes new deal
deacon
scruton
godwin
burgess
langley
menzies 2 new deal
morrison 3 new deal
rinaldi 4 new deal
kopczak
cook new deal
worrincy
gives us 4 overseas,
tadulala, jefferies, lynch, newton, solomona,james to go, give a new deal to straugheir and donaldson as well.
Saves a fair wedge on cap but no new signings, dont think we need any just for sake of it..but if we could get andy kain off of fev, fuifui moimoi or steve price, david williams or steve turner..or even go big and try and get lockyer for sykes and move sykes to centres and crookes on bench.
But think alot of the big name players off contract is aus will stay over there..if we can get another big name then good..but dont need to go for sake of it.'" Release half a team including probably our second best player of the year so far superb.
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| Lynch is going..fact, newton is getting slower and will be on a fair chunk, godwin is on contract and newton isnt, is tadulala worth a new deal when new rules are coming in,might as well use halley where he should be used, solomona injury prone and on alot of cash, jefferies is good when team is playing good, but can go missing too much, but yes all those i can see going, you cant keep everyone happy, you either keep the experienced older guys, or let the younger lads step up to the plate.. the team i picked only crookeswould step up for now, leaving hyde, straugheir, donaldson, crossley etc to get the experience during the injury spell.
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| Quote ="ritz"Wont be retained.
think squad will be summat like:
platt
halley new deal
crookes
nero 1
sherriffe
sykes new deal
deacon
scruton
godwin
burgess
langley
menzies 2 new deal
morrison 3 new deal
rinaldi 4 new deal
kopczak
cook new deal
worrincy
gives us 4 overseas,
tadulala, jefferies, lynch, newton, solomona,james to go, give a new deal to straugheir and donaldson as well.
Saves a fair wedge on cap but no new signings, dont think we need any just for sake of it..but if we could get andy kain off of fev, fuifui moimoi or steve price, david williams or steve turner..or even go big and try and get lockyer for sykes and move sykes to centres and crookes on bench.
But think alot of the big name players off contract is aus will stay over there..if we can get another big name then good..but dont need to go for sake of it.'"
Do you even know what your talkin about ? - Release Ben Jeffries? - Lynch? - Semi? - Newton? just like that? People like you really get on my T*** - Absouluteley ridiculous post - You want to start actually watchin the games, why on earth would you release the one player that completely outplayed the Saints half-backs
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| Why would you want to see the squad weakened from this year?
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| Quote ="ritz"Lynch is going..fact, newton is getting slower and will be on a fair chunk, godwin is on contract and newton isnt, is tadulala worth a new deal when new rules are coming in,might as well use halley where he should be used, solomona injury prone and on alot of cash, jefferies is good when team is playing good, but can go missing too much, but yes all those i can see going, you cant keep everyone happy, you either keep the experienced older guys, or let the younger lads step up to the plate.. the team i picked only crookeswould step up for now, leaving hyde, straugheir, donaldson, crossley etc to get the experience during the injury spell.'"
The younger guys are 16,17 years old mate - they aint ready at all
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Why would you want to see the squad weakened from this year?'"
Because he clearly hasn't a clue what hes talking about - Go watch Leeds
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| Quote ="ritz"Wont be retained.
think squad will be summat like:
platt
halley new deal
crookes
nero 1
sherriffe
sykes new deal
deacon
scruton
godwin
burgess
langley
menzies 2 new deal
morrison 3 new deal
rinaldi 4 new deal
kopczak
cook new deal
worrincy
gives us 4 overseas,
tadulala, jefferies, lynch, newton, solomona,james to go, give a new deal to straugheir and donaldson as well.
Saves a fair wedge on cap but no new signings, dont think we need any just for sake of it..but if we could get andy kain off of fev, fuifui moimoi or steve price, david williams or steve turner..or even go big and try and get lockyer for sykes and move sykes to centres and crookes on bench.
But think alot of the big name players off contract is aus will stay over there..if we can get another big name then good..but dont need to go for sake of it.'"
No, no ,no. Get rid of Jeffries when he's having a brilliant season so far? Newton is playing quality and should be retained with Rinaldi instead of Godwin & we should look to offload Godwin. What's your sources on knowing that Lynch is going? Tadulala has been in good form and should get another year deal, given his age.
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| Quote ="ritz"Lynch is going..fact, newton is getting slower and will be on a fair chunk, godwin is on contract and newton isnt, is tadulala worth a new deal when new rules are coming in,might as well use halley where he should be used, solomona injury prone and on alot of cash, jefferies is good when team is playing good, but can go missing too much, but yes all those i can see going, you cant keep everyone happy, you either keep the experienced older guys, or let the younger lads step up to the plate.. the team i picked only crookeswould step up for now, leaving hyde, straugheir, donaldson, crossley etc to get the experience during the injury spell.'"
We should really be looking to re-sign Newton, now we have a second Hooker back you can see his quality, he will probably be on slightly less than his last contract anyway, so there's your problem solved.
So, we get rid of Tadulala who has been solid and doesn't make many mistakes, put Halley there, and then have Platt back at FB? Then when Platt is off-form and really lacking in confidence and we need somebody to fill in, where are we going to look?
We'll have to see about Solomona, but if re-signed should be on considerably less.
Jeffries is good when the teams good, obviously. But this season he's only "gone missing" once and has been one of our best and most consistent players with our top try-assists. Jeffries Deacon works well when they are both on form & Sykes showed his quality is in the centres rather than the halves on saturday (although he didn't do badly in the halves).
Some of those younger guys should get experience in a couple of matches, they aren't all ready to be chucked into SL, especially if our team is going to be as poor as you are making out next season.
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| Quote ="!RYAN!"Jeffires will deffo get a new contract'"
Hopefully.
This guy's just an idiot.
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| I aint saying i want rid, I just cant see them getting retained, as of lynch he wants to go, wanted out pre season but macca said no.
Being an idiot i may be, not knowing what im on about, that i do, ask the people i pm about stuff i get told about well over a month before it released to you lot with your head in the sand.
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| Quote ="ritz"I aint saying i want rid, I just cant see them getting retained, as of lynch he wants to go, wanted out pre season but macca said no.
Being an idiot i may be, not knowing what im on about, that i do, ask the people i pm about stuff i get told about well over a month before it released to you lot with your head in the sand.'"
Why can't you see Jeffries being retained. I am well aware that it is likely that Lynch will be moving on, but it's not set in stone.
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| Jeferies is an average player, nothing special, whereas he may not be on much, hes an overseas player, do we look to the here and now or the future?
Whereas the reserve players may not be ready yet, when are they? If we resign jefferies its just another yr that they aint gonna get any game time, then another, then another, some reserve players are already wishing they didnt resign and was elsewhere, you gott athrow them in eventually.
When did wigan think that tomkins was ready, or ainscough, when did leeds think mcguire, hall kirke etc was ready, when did cas think westerman, shenton owen etc were ready, they same age as some of our reserves, if they aint gonna get any game time they may never be ready.
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| And who's going to replace Jeffries from the reserves? Before you say Sykes, he can do a job there but he is far better in the centres.
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| Colton wray, could step up, not all time, but with him, sykes and rinaldi it can be covered, crookes can cover centre if sykes at s/o, langley can go to hooker to give godwin a breather if rinaldi at s/o. Halley can jump into dummy half from wing etc.
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| As you can see I don't often post on here.
Prefer to read the usual sensible opinions of fellow fans.
This thread has a real sense of bad timing around it.
A few weeks ago is was all doom and gloom for good reason but seen as we have now won back to back games while played our best rugby of the year it seems like a pointless time to start talking about next year and who will be leaving.
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If Lynch wants to go let him. He is still a great player for us but he turns the wrong side of 30 this year and I know we have high hopes for Crossley.
I though Tadulala was brilliant on Saturday. Looked good when ever he touched the ball.
Jefferies has really turned the corner this year and if he can keep it up will get a new contract.
Same with Newton and Cook.
Solomona is probably a goner.
As for Menzies and Morrison getting such long deals the guy is dreaming.
Give them both one more.
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As for Menzies and Morrison getting such long deals the guy is dreaming.
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I think Menzies is looking at 1 yr to finish off and Morro with 2 yr to finish off.
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As for Menzies and Morrison getting such long deals the guy is dreaming.
Give them both one more.'"
Where did i say give them long term deals, i said for next year, not for future generations.
Oh looking back can see where u miss understood it..it meant overseas players ie nero 1, menzies 2, morro 3, rinaldi 4, not length of deals, how many overseas we have.
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| Ah my mistake.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I think Menzies is looking at 1 yr to finish off and Morro with 2 yr to finish off.'"
Menzies said on Sat that he should be here next year as well, I hope Morrison stays as well.
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| Surely we would look to resign Newton and save that quota spot used on Rinaldi?
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| Quote ="ritz"Colton wray, could step up, not all time, but with him, sykes and rinaldi it can be covered, crookes can cover centre if sykes at s/o, langley can go to hooker to give godwin a breather if rinaldi at s/o. Halley can jump into dummy half from wing etc.'" Won't be here next year.
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| Well then thats another one after crossley who they peed off my not playing them then.
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