To make 4th we will probably have to win 11 possibly 12 of our remaining 17 games.

If we're in the lower half of the play offs, I bet none of the higher teams choose to play us.

Big if mind.

The test of our ambitions and everything we need to meet those will be tested at the weekend.
Win, and win well, then we have hopes of top 8.
Continue to do the same, then perhaps top 4.

[Gledhill modeBulls will finish third and slay the Stains at Old Trafford. Whinos will finish outside the play-offs. Nailed on.[/Gledhill mode

Going on result's so far this year it's hard to predict how many win's are needed for a top 4 spot.

You forgot the self pitying"every day is a battle" cr#p when he's lost his wages on a bull's bet.

TBF there's a million times more chance of that for those dumb enough to bet on the Whinos . . .

Mclemon to ensure that any bet on the Whinos to win anything is a good one, One down, two to go.

loving how bulls fans who have been filled with doom and gloom think they have a voice again.

wire was only 12 days ago hahahaha. plenty more hammerings coming your way.

leeds have been shocking all season and we are still in 3rd. pretty sure we will finish first or second. still pretty sure bulls wont make 10th let alone 8th.

worst bulls team ever

and on a Tuesday night - disgraceful.

what are you on about mate!! bulls are garbage!! lets be honest well done for beating saints!! but they havent played that bad for years and you only just one!!

theres an old saying in RL defence wins titles!! leeds as ive said have been very poor all season!! who has the best defence sunshine??

so for you to finish 8th teams in the eight have to lose 3 some 4 and some 5 without you dropping points for you to catch them. its a big ask already and theres 3 teams infront of you looking for eighth.

best defence in super league old boy

And yet your attack is waning, you've scored only 40 points more than the "garbage" bulls. Face it, your bubble has burst and your on the slide.

No.

Yes.

Not sure.

It depends ow many games we win.

And how many others lose.

Well it's possible. I'd be rather surprised though to say the least.

until it's mathematically impossible then everything is possible, is it probable...perhaps not

here's hoping

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I don't think it is at all likely. To get 4th, we'd have to accumulate a lot more league points than every other competitor for 4th spot, so are starting from in most cases a significant handicap.

I thought despite being in a rebuilding phase, 4th might just have been achievable had we satrted the season well, but I'd reckon we've given ourselves too much to do.

Add into the mix the injury problems we've got, Solomona probably not going to be featuring, the promising Crookes eliminated from the centres, Deacon's recurring problems, the absence of Morro etc., and it would start to look like expecting a minor miracle.

Realistically what I'd like is to settle down to less of a mercurial level of performance, improve on errors and ball retention and discipline, and probably top of the list, sort out the defensive frailties. (Though of course Wagga, Solo and Morro being out doesn't help that either). More games where we can walk away, win lose or draw, not feeling choked or apoplectic or just plain baffled.

And I'd love to see some of the young 'uns getting fair opportunities to come in from time to time and show what they can do (and not, as some were advocating, be thrown to the lions away at Saints)

didnt realise you were watching leeds too lol

if our defence was shocking i would perhaps agree. but really its just wishful thinking on your part. your prayers have not be answerd yet my bulls friend.

until the quins game our attack was as good as anyone around us(saints not included)

saints have shipped 70 odd points in 2 games. theres no crisis there.

agreed leeds need to work on the attack. but its more go forward and kicking game related. put our backs at the right end of the field and we will be ok. we did just rip hudds appart in attack 12 days ago so im optamistic

Sums things up rather well IMO.

If we see some increased consistency, improvement and eradication of errors then that's good. If we see a few of the kids get a chance too that would be good.

Top 4 would be a minor miracle when you consider who's missing and our lack of consistency so far this season.