Is he still recovering from his off season operation or what?

The guy was awesome for you lot and GB when he burst onto the scene but I thought most of last year he was pants (although I think he had a bad shoulder injury?) but this year from what I'm seen on TV and highlights and read in papers etc he seems to be doing nothing this season...yet.

If he doesn't recover from injury (if thats the reason) or buck his ideas up he could go the way of Fielden but much quicker

I think he looks to heavy and has lost the agility he had.

He`s been like that for quite a few weeks now don`t think he`s carrying a injury though, looks like the rest of them unfit and not interested.

He's being used as a battering ram.. whether they play him at prop or loose, our lack of any momentum going forward means he (and everyone else, including the wingers) can do nothing but charge forward to get out of our own half..
Try playing in a team where even just 3 or 4 are unmotivated.. you just cant stand out, you have too much leg work to do to cover the others..
Why are professional players unmotivated? Not sure they are.. they do all want to win, but every team has the coach giving the players that little bit extra, and in an intense contact game like league, if you dont have that little bit extra, the gap widens, you get found out..
Burgess, Morrison, Menzies, all the young players and others are now being done a disservice by our coach.

I dont think asking him to alternate between prop and LF is helping him. Andy Farrell could do that at his peak but its a lot to ask of a young player.

Doesn't have the quality around him anymore.

send him over the pennines then, we'll have him

He'll be off if there's half a chance.

One word - Burnout.

Give over.

Burgess, like Koppa and others are victims of the current malaise affecting the Club caused by signings in the last 4 years that have not turned out well for the Club. That is not the fault of the current Head Coach or the C/man. What could be construed as fault is their persistence with players who have no pride in pulling on a Bulls shirt. Brave decisions have to be made which would probably see us in a worse position than we are in now. A clearout is needed, we must begin a future plan to bring us to a position to challenge for honours, a plan that will probably leave us, in the short term floundering in the bottom reaches of SL for a season or two "a la Wigan". but the Head Honcho's at Odsal seem to be scared of the reaction of the fans to such a radical approach but we must do it before relegation again becomes an issue. A plan needs to be formulated by the leadership and a meeting with the players and fans for backing and let the 'success now or else brigade' wallow in their bile.
Keep Macca, sack the jury!

my god, do you troll on every board???? He's a good young player having to do too much to cover for others inability!

Hit the nail on the head, couldn't believe how much he's bulked up. Definately more a prop now than a SR.

Dosn't wanna play at Shodsil anymore. Looks as though he is another step nearer to joining us at Headingley

Not sure there is anything `going on` with Sam. Like many young players who have a big `breakthrough` year you then get the `second year syndrome`.

He`s definitely bulked up but he`s still a youngster and is probably finding the extra weight (muscle, admittedly) hard to carry. We used to talk about kids `growing into their bodies`, I guess that`s what Sam`s going through at the moment.

He`s a quality rugby player though and I`m sure he`ll come back to the fore. Incidentally I don`t find anything wrong in playing him in different positions; we don`t know yet what his most effective position will be (probably he doesn`t yet know himself) and there is nothing to lose and plenty top gain in obtaining the experience of playing in different positions in the pack.

Sam is definitely significantly below his best form, but I don't think there's anything wrong with him, the problem is he is part of a team which most of the time is well below par and on too many occasions performs as abysmally as last night, it is exceptionally difficult to look good in a team which is getting whupped and constantly on the back foot.

You fearing Stuart Fielden burn out?

When he gets the ball you can see a look of confusion on his face and a moment of hesitation. I'm sure he's thinking along the lines "Am I playing prop and should be making hard yards, or am I playing LF and should be running wide?" He ends up doing neither.

I can't explain the transformation in Fielden, but no, not at all. Burgess has an outstanding career ahead of him, of that I've no doubt.

cba starting a new thread but matt cook was a bit last night.

Shut up soft lad.

He is burnt out simple as. I'm not doubting his ability in the slightest but he has played too much rugby at too young an age and on top of that has had to overcome a major close season operation.

Burnt out? He's played only 15 or so games in 6 months, dont talk silly.

I dont think he has the bottle to step up to play in a struggling side. He looks good when we're doing alright but looks poor when the rest of the team are struggling. We miss Morrison in that situation

He's still only a kid and is lacking experience. I'm not sure he's being given clear instructions on what to do on the field because he seems to look lost at times.

Hmm I wonder who's job that is. I've always said he's a better prop forward than a 13. When he plays 13 he tries to be something he isn't so in the end he doesn't do anything.