Lots of perfectly reasonable stuff on another thread about the team and McNamara, but for me the worst thing on show last night was Jefferies. What does he offer us? Poor kicking, poor decision making and astonishingly bad passing behind a dominant pack going forward. I lost count of the number of times that he wasted overlaps in the first half near their line by not releasing the ball quickly or else hurled the ball behind players or so far above their heads that they had to jump to catch the ball and all momentum was lost. He's an opposition defensive coach's dream.

If Deacon gets injured this season we are absolutely lost.

I have to agree, he is not a player we can look to if things aren't going our way.

The Greg Bird deal falling through was a hammer blow, whilst he can't win games on his own, he would at least have offered some danger to our side. It is going to be a long year with Jeffries and Deacon as our playmakers.

TBH Jeffries was inconsistent at best at Wakey and I had hoped he would really just provide "cover". It seems now thought that we've got into a situation where he's expected to be the main creative halfback.

Losing out on Bird is a blow but we shouldn't have got oursleves into this position. To go into a season with only two halfbacks is madness.

I don't rate Chris Thorman that highly but he was available and would've at least given us some cover and competition for places. As it is Deacon and Jeffries can play poor every week yet there is nobody around to take their place.

I totally agree, when we signed him I thought he would never be able to make the cut, now he's playing week in, week out. This shows how weak we are becoming.

Even with Deacon your season will not be what you are expecting it to be. I think you fans need to realise you are not the force you once used to be.

I'm sorry if that's not what you want to hear even with a change of coach. I really wish you good luck for the rest of the season.

We already know that, we don't need you to tell us. We realised it about 2 years ago.

2005 is the last time Bulls won anything. So Its not a 2 year problem is it?

Anyway good luck I think you will make the play offs.

Thanks a lot! I think you will scrape a place too.

Just out of interest (I'm actually not gloating or anything), when was the last time Huddersfield won anything?

Lets get back on topic! you were discussing how poor BJ is....

Erm last night at your ground 12-16 the score.

Did you not go?

Yeah, but please inform me, when was the last time Hudds' won anything?

Please keep up

Well in that case, the bulls have won lots since 2005. Wen was the last time you won a trophy smartar$e?

Platt, Sheriffe, Jeffries, Newton, Godwin, Langley and Solomona are all dead wood in our team.

Agree with all apart from Newton.

carnegie 9's last season at Leeds. Please keep up

I really liked Newton but he cant play for Bradford. His passing is shocking at times and he does not seem as influencial as he did at Wigan.

Ok i'll give you that one. Even though it was still a bit of a smartar$e comment.

Didn't see the game . . . . didn't get to listen this week either

, but . . .

. . . do you think it's because his heart isn't in it?

Could that said of some of the others turning in poor performances - regardless of what they may actually be saying in the press???

Platt, Sheriffe, Jeffries, Newton and Solomona I definatley agree are dead wood. Platt and Sheriffe would be more suited to the lower leagues. Jeffries is a border line super league standard player and Newton and Solomona are past it eack by a few years.

However I disagree with your choices on Langley and Godwin. Langley's work rate is phenominal and matched by very few in our side, he's got unbelieveable fitness and can carry on working for 80 minutes. Personally, I think he is being used incorrectly. He shouldn't be played down the middle like he has been asked to recently. The edges are where he is best. I think Godwin still has something to offer though, unlike Newton, Godwin can play 80 minutes and he has some quickness around the ruck area, sure his passing isn't spectacular and he isn't a monster in defence, but he's a hard little worker and on performances this and last season I would be selecting him in front of Terry Newton.

Perhaps. In fact, I dared to suggest that McNamara had lost the dressing room on another thread. What you are suggesting is a mighty similar suggestion indeed.

I'd better stop that straight away then.

Can't be doing having people think I'm you

Tend to agree with all that, but would add Deacon, Nero, Tadulala and Tupou to the list of dead wood.

Why not? It would get you more respect on here?