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| Hello all.
Loooooooooong time no speak. I hope that you are all well, both friend and foe.
Obviously I do not get to keep up as much these days with minimal tv coverage and even less news reports of the RL Championship but every time I have a look it seems that the club is becoming more and more of an embarrassment.
Leave Odsal, back to Odsal. Turnover of staff/players. No realistic chance of ever joining the top flight for the foreseeable. Regular thrashings, crowds, owners getting pelters from all sides (nothing changes there!)
I realise that bad news sells more papers but is there anything of positivity coming out of the Wembley of the North that could give me a spark of hope?
TIA
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| Glad to see you’re still following in some form!
I can’t see any positives at the moment!
The recent crowds look like they’re at about 1500 (regardless of the 2.7k reported at the weekend).
I don’t know anyone who is 100% about renewing their ST for next season.
The team are poorly coached, unmotivated, unfit.
It’s a bit of a vicious circle - we don’t have the money to invest in the team / coach, crowds are falling and the budget for next year is reportedly much lower (although Wood said not).
I don’t see a way of things improving - perhaps the 10/1 shot of a new stadium is the only chance of a turnaround in fortunes. In reality, given we’ve all discussed this same point for 20 or more years, i don’t think I’d bet on it happening at 100/1 odds.
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| Blimey there's a blast from the past.
Eddie, the days of McBanana and Hood are like paradise compared with what we have now.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Blimey there's a blast from the past.
Eddie, the days of McBanana and Hood are like paradise compared with what we have now.'"
Jings. It is worse than I thought!
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Glad to see you’re still following in some form!
I can’t see any positives at the moment!
The recent crowds look like they’re at about 1500 (regardless of the 2.7k reported at the weekend).
I don’t know anyone who is 100% about renewing their ST for next season.
The team are poorly coached, unmotivated, unfit.
It’s a bit of a vicious circle - we don’t have the money to invest in the team / coach, crowds are falling and the budget for next year is reportedly much lower (although Wood said not).
I don’t see a way of things improving - perhaps the 10/1 shot of a new stadium is the only chance of a turnaround in fortunes. In reality, given we’ve all discussed this same point for 20 or more years, i don’t think I’d bet on it happening at 100/1 odds.'"
Thanks Ewen. Nice to see you are still posting.
All in all it looks pretty bleak then. I watched us get utterly humiliated by Fev the other week and it was sad to see how far we have fallen. Admittedly Fev must be breaching the salary cap with their collection of Harlem Globetrotters.
As for a new stadium. Is that actually a possibility? This has been discussed since Jesus was in the womb and my hopes of the Superdome have now finally faded away.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Thanks Ewen. Nice to see you are still posting.
All in all it looks pretty bleak then. I watched us get utterly humiliated by Fev the other week and it was sad to see how far we have fallen. Admittedly Fev must be breaching the salary cap with their collection of Harlem Globetrotters.
As for a new stadium. Is that actually a possibility? This has been discussed since Jesus was in the womb and my hopes of the Superdome have now finally faded away.'"
I don’t think so. Wood produced an artists sketch (we’ve never seen one of those before) at the fans forum and told fans it was a 10/1 chance for that plan and a 2/1 chance of any sort of development.
Given we’ve all been through the old OSV discussions which never came to pass, I don’t hold out much hope.
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| Absolutely f**k all to be positive about.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Absolutely f**k all to be positive about.'"
But…..but……Dunning said there was improvements!
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| It’s bad and I’m struggling to see how the current management stop the rot without some sort of external finance. My only regular contribution is to BullBuilder, but I am only really still paying in to that out of respect for the people involved and the hard work they put in. I’ve only made two home games this year and haven’t been back since the Halifax debacle and to be honest I’m probably about done with this farce.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the club in a fight for survival next year, on and off the pitch.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"It’s bad and I’m struggling to see how the current management stop the rot without some sort of external finance. My only regular contribution is to BullBuilder, but I am only really still paying in to that out of respect for the people involved and the hard work they put in. I’ve only made two home games this year and haven’t been back since the Halifax debacle and to be honest I’m probably about done with this farce.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the club in a fight for survival next year, on and off the pitch.'"
You see, this saddens me to hear as you were always one of the more positive Bulls fans (God knows we bickered enough!), and to read this is difficult tbh.
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| Old Mystic is back just need FA and the gang is back together.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"It’s bad and I’m struggling to see how the current management stop the rot without some sort of external finance. My only regular contribution is to BullBuilder, but I am only really still paying in to that out of respect for the people involved and the hard work they put in. I’ve only made two home games this year and haven’t been back since the Halifax debacle and to be honest I’m probably about done with this farce.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the club in a fight for survival next year, on and off the pitch.'"
Thankyou. We appreciate your continued support.
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| Wow Eddie back is a positive itself. We need people like you and FA back to get some life back into the forum and help us last poor souls.
Positives at the club… we’ll we got a new clock I suppose. Oh and the queues at the bar at much quicker these days although annoyingly I’d often rather but stood waiting at the bar than watching the game
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| Quote ="Bulls4"Wow Eddie back is a positive itself. We need people like you and FA back to get some life back into the forum and help us last poor souls.
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Ha ha. Very kind of you B4. I am not sure that me and FA's old petty squabbles would improve this board too much.
I do wonder how the great man is however but I suspect he has defected to the Catalans these days to cheer on his big chum McNamara.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Old Mystic is back just need FA and the gang is back together.'"
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| Wonder if nestegg will rise from the sshes as well
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| He already has.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Absolutely f**k all to be positive about.'"
Ok. I’ll try.
We’re cutting our cloth, keeping to a budget and have had zero financial implosions for 3 years. We seem to be building bridges with local businesses and increasing corporate income at the same time that ticket income is tanking.
We’re running teams in 7 competitions. The first team, despite being on a reported 5/6 biggest budget in the league is in 8th place and completely devoid of confidence. Academy/scholars doing well. Womens team a bit inconsistent. The wheelchair team been winning, don’t know if the disability team are playing yet.
Some great youngsters coming through the academy.
The stadium. We’ve all been there. Many times.
I was actually happy that there were at least discussions happening in the background. And the picture we were shown did have a Bradford council planning document logo on it. But. I need to see diggers on the ground.
That’s all I’ve got.
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| Pumpetypump is glad to see the return of the wayward son. At least you have Dundee United comfortably avoiding relegation. Pumpetypump has no other club apart from the comically crap Bradford. I can also reveal that I am both Nestegg and Hudd-Shay.
Office in Leeds. Warm Tap water 0.0% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Highlander"I was actually happy that there were at least discussions happening in the background. And the picture we were shown did have a Bradford council planning document logo on it. But. I need to see diggers on the ground. '"
I've only seen a small picture of someone holding the Plans. Have you or anyone else got a picture of the plans that's sharable?
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| Quote ="Highlander"Ok. I’ll try.
We’re cutting our cloth, keeping to a budget and have had zero financial implosions for 3 years. We seem to be building bridges with local businesses and increasing corporate income at the same time that ticket income is tanking. '"
Just wonder how sustainable we're going to be if the 1st team performances keep on as they are. Corporates won't want to be involved if there are no crowds or interest.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Just wonder how sustainable we're going to be if the 1st team performances keep on as they are. Corporates won't want to be involved if there are no crowds or interest.'"
I think we’ve 1 more year of this size budget. If nothing else changes. We need to spend it very wisely.
We have to play better at home. We have to. The 300 or so fans that go to away games have had a fairly good season. That’ll probably change with the upcoming away fixtures.
Things that could save us next season?
A loaded investor
Over performing in relation to our budget
Stadium plans are actually signed & sealed & groundwork starts
Pick which you think is most likely!
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Pumpetypump is glad to see the return of the wayward son. At least you have Dundee United comfortably avoiding relegation. Pumpetypump has no other club apart from the comically crap Bradford. I can also reveal that I am both Nestegg and Hudd-Shay.
Office in Leeds. Warm Tap water 0.0% Mmm!
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I was missing you sweet cheeks.
As for "comfortably avoiding relegation?" We play a European tie in a fortnight!!!
Office in Dunfermline. Nice cold water cooler!
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| Quote ="Highlander"Ok. I’ll try.
We’re cutting our cloth, keeping to a budget and have had zero financial implosions for 3 years. We seem to be building bridges with local businesses and increasing corporate income at the same time that ticket income is tanking.
We’re running teams in 7 competitions. The first team, despite being on a reported 5/6 biggest budget in the league is in 8th place and completely devoid of confidence. Academy/scholars doing well. Womens team a bit inconsistent. The wheelchair team been winning, don’t know if the disability team are playing yet.
Some great youngsters coming through the academy.
The stadium. We’ve all been there. Many times.
I was actually happy that there were at least discussions happening in the background. And the picture we were shown did have a Bradford council planning document logo on it. But. I need to see diggers on the ground.
That’s all I’ve got.'"
Running teams in 7 competitions???
Not to be a bit blunt here but surely the future of our club is solely based on the success of the first team? Surely all the resources should be going to them first and give us a foundation to build upon?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Running teams in 7 competitions???
Not to be a bit blunt here but surely the future of our club is solely based on the success of the first team? Surely all the resources should be going to them first and give us a foundation to build upon?'"
I threw this in a few weeks ago but no one followed up on it.
The womens, wheelchair and disability teams get their funding from the Bulls Foundation. So closing them down doesn’t transfer to the first team.
The main question is reserves & academy. Probably £120k goes into them. Every time we’ve struggled, people vote to keep the academy. To be fair, it’s fun to watch on a Thursday evening.
My own feeling is that we’re covering every base we can. To show IMG and SL and the RFL that we bring value to the overall footprint of rugby league. Whether that’s just a punt in the dark, who knows?
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