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| Signed on short term loan. Good feet versitile and pacey. What do we think?
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| Quote ="Peter Goddard"Signed on short term loan. Good feet versitile and pacey. What do we think?'"
Hope he's good under high kick might be only time he sees ball
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| Good player, very quick and strong, has a very good step. Was originally a FB, but has developed into a winger or . Is a bit hotheaded at times on the pitch. A lot of Hull fans think he should playing in Hull's 17, so not sure what has gone on, rumours on him having a poor attitude (think he has even mentioned this in an interview before), not sure Smith rates likes him. Should go really well for you guys, certainly SL standard IMO. Worth having a look at his highlights on YT.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Good player, very quick and strong, has a very good step. Was originally a FB, but has developed into a winger or Centre. Is a bit hotheaded at times on the pitch. A lot of Hull fans think he should playing in Hull's 17, so not sure what has gone on, rumours on him having a poor attitude (think he has even mentioned this in an interview before), not sure Smith rates likes him. Should go really well for you guys, certainly SL standard IMO. Worth having a look at his highlights on YT.'"
He is a good signing and and a very decent player but I wish we could sign someone on a permanent basis, not sure this in and out for a couple if weeks is any good. Halifax proved a reasonably settled side is better and better for team morale.
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| QuareQuare
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Ruan
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12 loan or dr players so far and we are only a 3rd of the way through the season .
Its embarrassing really
EDIT: Added Cory Johnson after it had been quite rightly pointed out id originally missed him out.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"QuareQuare
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Bibby
Walters
Donno
Ruan
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11 loan or dr players so far and we are only a 3rd of the way through the season .
Its embarrassing really'"
As always, there’s another way of looking at it - the position. We’ve had a problem at winger all season - since we failed to sign the png winger we were linked with, so that accounts for 4 of the 11. Roby was needed whilst Walker & Jowitt were injured, once they were back we had hooker covered from within the squad and he went back to Hudds. The rest are middles and we’ve used them on an adhoc basis to cover for various injuries to Lawrence, Thompson, England, Butler etc.
Whilst the best way would be to cover from the reserves, it’s obvious they’re not up to standard yet.
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| On ability think Wynne has it, although as the FC poster pointed out, maybe an attitude problem there.
Think we're getting into dangerous territory now with the amount of loan players. Wynne and Qareqare obviously strengthen us in an area we are weak. If they stay with us long term, it's good business. But if both get recalled after a couple of weeks, I think it will do more damage then good with continuity, team spirit etc
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| I can't see us recalling Wynne tbh. He'll be at Bradford for the rest of the season. Only way I can see him not staying is if an SL club come knocking
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| Another loan player! Albeit in an area where we're weak. If he does have an attitude problem then that's not a good example for the rest of the squad "you'll get dropped or overlooked for this numpty".
Would be saying give 100% or you can go straight back.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"QuareQuare
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Donno
Ruan
Butler
Wynne
11 loan or dr players so far and we are only a 3rd of the way through the season .
Its embarrassing really'"
Hate to be that guy but we’ve also had Corey Johnson this season.
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| How long is Arundel out for? Because a backline of Blackmore, Gill, Arundel, Qareqare is alright as it is.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Hate to be that guy but we’ve also had Corey Johnson this season.'"
I thought id end up missing one.
Well played sir!
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| I've seen this guy play a few times for Hull and to say he's hot headed is an understatement. Makes Harry Newman look calm and composed by comparison. Not sure playing with the grubs down here in the championship is the best place for him but let's see I guess.
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| Great - the opposition will be on the wind up straightaway then.
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| Blackmore was injured and couldn’t come off on Saturday and missed a game recently with a knee injury so maybe he needs a rest?
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| Quote ="Nothus"I've seen this guy play a few times for Hull and to say he's hot headed is an understatement. Makes Harry Newman look calm and composed by comparison. Not sure playing with the grubs down here in the championship is the best place for him but let's see I guess.'"
Perhaps.
Although on the other hand showing a talented player that if he doesn’t sort his attitude out and get his head right he will find himself playing with the grubs down here in the championship might be exactly what he needs.
If we benefit from that for the full season then great. If we get two games out of him and he leaves our own players (rightly) peed off then not so great.
I don’t like this much chopping and changing but we’ve struggled with injuries to key players and most sides are paper thin so a case of needs must unfortunately.
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| Bring back the days of bringing in in a loan player if your squad is down to bare bones due to injuries.
Imagine if a team with so many loan players got promotion where would they get there players from to compete in Super League.
If IMG would allow the team promotion anyway.
Rugby League run by muppets with the attitude of if this new idea doesn't work let's go back to what we were doing before and see if that works this time.
No wonder our sport will never move forward.
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| arguabky our back line is down down to its bare bones
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| Not hard to be down to the bare bones when you only sign two centres to begin with.
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| And there lies the problem, we haven’t got the budget to have 3 players for every position and sign the so called marquee players, so you either sign bang average and have quantity or take a gamble that you get cover in on loan or dual reg in an area that not particularly strong. I do agree that 2 wingers and two centres plus Myers who at the start of the season was unknown is very light
I heard a rumour about QareQare over winter but i suspect we didn’t have the budget to take him on a proper season long loan with no recall as this would mean covering all his wages
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| Tbf we only have two permanent wingers too. Is DFJ and Blackmore injured?
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| Blackmore had a knock vs Fax but couldn't be replaced. DFJ had a knock before the Batley game and didn't look himself at all and had a poor game. Suspect he's not right.
We did go in very light indeed in the backs this season with no cover whatsoever for centre and wing. So it's unsurprising given the budget that it's there we have to find cover with loans.
On the wider point I think the elite clubs are increasingly using dual reg and loans and championship clubs don't have the budget to resist. It does devalue the competition but this has been happening by stealth for some years, it seems we've caught a lot of criticism but I suspect others before us have done exactly the same. Having a reserves and academy means that some criticism is merited - what's the point if there are no backs ready to cover apart from Myers but it does depend on where those players are in their development. It's be good to here the rationale from someone at the club.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Blackmore had a knock vs Fax but couldn't be replaced. DFJ had a knock before the Batley game and didn't look himself at all and had a poor game. Suspect he's not right.
We did go in very light indeed in the backs this season with no cover whatsoever for centre and wing. So it's unsurprising given the budget that it's there we have to find cover with loans.
On the wider point I think the elite clubs are increasingly using dual reg and loans and championship clubs don't have the budget to resist. It does devalue the competition but this has been happening by stealth for some years, it seems we've caught a lot of criticism but I suspect others before us have done exactly the same. Having a reserves and academy means that some criticism is merited - what's the point if there are no backs ready to cover apart from Myers but it does depend on where those players are in their development. It's be good to here the rationale from someone at the club.'"
Your right Bullseye. It was only a couple of years ago that Fev were getting so much flak for having Rhinos players.
We don’t have a moneyman backer or a business man like Andy Mazey (Rochdale and Swinton). So we do have to budget accordingly. So if loans and DR cover our shortfall then needs must obviously. Until our academy lads are ready if course. But instead of loaning folk like Butler, why aren’t we giving Green a go? Him, Myers and Flanagan JR look like the next ones to play first team (I’d like to see Camden too). Wallace was an unused sub the other week. Could have give Green that spot for some gametime.
The backs I can understand the loans as we came in with 2 centre (plus Myers) and 2 wingers (no real academy back up).
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| Think Green's had a knock too recently remember something about a thumb injury. Take the point though about the forwards.
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| Ah that makes sense then. I know I heard and interview regarding Ho and Dunning said it was a case of IF he came back and not when so out of the young lads only Green and Ho looked anywhere near first team. So losing Ho is a bit of a bummer on the development side of things.
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