After the news that Joe Keyes, Elliott Minchella, in particular, have gone, also Milnes and Storton, this is my last ever post on RAB. I am 100% done with this basket case of a club. And probably RL as well. I can't face watching yet another massacred team starting yet again from scratch, and in pitiful circumstances where we will clearly literally offload absolutely ANYONE, without exception, you only have to ask and they are gone. And I can't stand any more of it.

I also have serious doubts if we won't slump into the admin mire yet again, but frankly I no longer care. The club I cared about has died, and should just be closed down and put out of its misery, instead of this death by a thousand cuts.

To say I am gutted would be the understatement of the century, but enough is enough. I have the memories. They will have to do.

Anyone interested in a Premier Club ticket and car parking spot, PM me.

And that's it. Thanks for the conversations guys, it has been good.

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Very sad FA and I can appreciate how you feel. I genuinely do not know what I'll do next year but I lost a lot of love for RL and the Bulls a few years ago.

I think I'll let some of this drama play out and see how I feel in the new year. I feel sorry for anyone who bought a season ticket expecting a decent side to watch.

And that's why I want the club to die. I can get my money back and spend my Sundays ignoring the clusterphuq that RL has become...

Thank goodness RL is in enough rude health it can allow a current fan base of 3-4K and a latent fan base of thousands to just drift away...

Bye Ferocious

You are part of the fixtures and fittings. When people such as yourself and Bullseye have to walk away then it truely is a sad state of affairs.

Sorry to read that FA

I'm kinda on the cusp myself. As of right now, I think I'm pretty much done with Bradford Bulls. Certainly I have no intention of buying a ST, or - most probably - going to any games next season. I really cannot face going through another iteration of 2017 again, then slowly building back top for a bit - only to have that generation of young talent picked off when we end up back here again in 18 months time.

And I feel pretty sure we WILL be back in the mire again in the future - after all, there is ZERO reason to think that the current 'consortium' has got the financial clout to do anything other.

At best we will limp along as a glorified Academy - producing talent for other clubs, whilst never being in any position to enjoy the fruits of those efforts ourselves. Instead it will be lower end of SL - Huddersfield and Hull KR et al, who will continue to benefit from our repeated mismanagement. That, to me, doesn't feel like a cause worthy of investing in with time, money and emotional energy.

I'll probably hang around RAB, at least for a while, because... well... it's got a kinda macabre fascination

Sorry to hear FA. I hope things sort themselves out enough (I won't hold my breath) for you to return one day

Sorry to hear that FA.

I’m not quite there yet but don’t know how much more it will take to put me off for good.

What a sad state of affairs ( the last 10 years I mean)

Surely anyone who has purchased a season ticket or a car park ticket should be entitled to there money back, it’s a bit like a miss sold pension if you excuse the pun,anyone who bought there tickets prior to this shambles should get their money back

Im pretty sure I know the answer. CAn you imagine January football transfer window and you sell your best player and then ask for money back. Comes with the territory I’m afraid

Such a shame, but totally understandable. I suspect a lot of us are on a similar path, its just a question of how far along. My Grandad put his money in to help reform the club back in the 60's, he passed away in 2007, with his beloved rugby club champions of the world. With hindsight now Im really grateful that was how his journey with the club ended. My dad wont be able to get to dewsbury every other week and I will watch from a distance what transpires over the winter, but as Ive said before this offseason could be it for me too. Its sad that generations of support might be coming to an end, I'll make a call closer to next season, but I completely understand your point of view FA. Its been good reading your posts on here, you'll be missed. ta ra lad.

Sorry to see you go FA, enjoyed reading your posts over the years. Today is indeed a dark day.

Bought a season ticket already so will be going next season but it’s another tough period to be a Bulls supporter that’s for sure.

I’m clinging on to the fact that if anyone can get a hard working solid team together on a budget and make them competitive in the championship it is John Kear.

Aye I think it's becoming pretty obvious that some of the longest standing fans who've put a lot of time, effort and money into the club over a lot of years have just had enough now.

I've been out for the last 2 years, and the idea that Chalmers may be going and a new regime taking over peaked my interest a little. Not loads as I've been burned too many times in the last 10+ years, but just a little. But I've yet to see anything that is holding me and so far everything I've seen just tells me to stay out.

One of the strangest things I've found myself contemplating is my upcoming family. I have a son on the way in the new year. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago if I'd be taking him to the Bulls, I would have laughed at you as a total no brainer. Now I find myself thinking I don't want to put him through this crap when he's too young to understand why it's all going tits up, and I think I'd rather, when he's old enough, that he go with his mum to Headingley. Which, going back those 10 years, is something I'd have slapped myself for even suggesting back then.

Doubt it.

Things really are rock bottom then when you'd rather send your unborn child to Headingley.

I’m not far behind you pal. Take care buddy

I've had the same feeling s on this latest cluster up. I just can't be bothered to care one way or the other.

I am struggling with supporting the club this year, i have traveled to every magic/bash and stayed the whole weekend with my sons only to watch the team win one match.
we have brought a shirt nearly every year when they have been replaced, i have brought season tickets nearly every year, however, this debacle is probably one joke too far for me. I am sick of hearing "stick with us, the fans need to continue to support the club".
We must be the laughing stock of every club in RL and the source for good cheap players when things like this happen.
Maybe its time to turn the light out

This time does feel worse that previously. But we haven't shafted our creditors or been hit with a 12 point deduction this time.
I think it's because I started to believe in the 3yr plan put out by JK - promotion, consolidation and then challenge. We did the first 2 and I'm sure the players believed as well. Then about 4months ago the rumours started to surface and we all recognised the spiral and here we are.
In the end I support the team. Players come & go. For various reasons. Some hurt more than others, but the team remains.

The trouble is, there hasn't been anything said by the new owners that is any different to the last 4.

They want the fans to buy in, but don't give them anything to buy in to.

I've seen it quoted around that we've sold 1200 season tickets. If that's true then I doubt many will be surprised if our average gate next year is around 1300 mark because unless there's some serious recruitment, which we can't afford, you're not going to get fans putting their hands in their pockets to buy season tickets

Unless something changes drastically, I won’t be getting one.

I’ll probably pay on the gate but I suppose it’s much easier to be put off going by poor performances, off field stuff and the weather if you haven’t paid up front.

Why can we not afford serious recruitment? Or at least define serious recruitment?
That £150k will pay wages & creditors who don't want to go on a repayment plan. Everyone else will probably be paid off over the next year. So, say £360k debt left - over 12 months is an extra £30k per month debt payment.
Selling those players gives us time & makes the debt manageable.
Now down to JK to build a team. Which he can do, just he wasn't expecting to have to 6months ago.
From what Sawyer was saying, our budget is less than last years but still more than Dewsbury, Batley etc. So if we've the 7th/8th best budget in the division, I'm kind of hoping we could finish 7th/8th.

Wrong mate.

We have substantial creditors in our throng, and the consort's current proposal is to royally shaft them.

Conversely two (yet unnamed) major creditors are allegedly already being treated favourably and/or exclusively in preference to others. Wonder why?



Here come the WUP's ?