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| Interesting watching the "ask Green" video on bulls tv.
He got asked about a roof on northern terrace. He's been and got a quote of £350k and he's willing to fund half of it if fans set up a fund for the other half.
What's everyone's thoughts. Personally I think it's good that someone has finally come up with a proposal rather than fobbing the question off as "it's something we'll look into"
Think it be difficult to generate £150k but at least Green as come up with a proposal. Get the buckets out again ladies and gents, if everyone at the next game puts fifty quid in, we'll finally have a new roof
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| I don't know if anyone has seen this yet.
Some quite interesting stuff on there. A few highlights:
1. Are you going to put a roof on the Northern Terrace:
After being asked this so many times, Mr Green has looked into it and it would actually cost less than it was expected to. The quotes the club have had are round £350,000. So, Marc Green has a proposal for the fans: If the fans raise half the cost, he'll match it with the other half. Anyone interested in setting this up, please contact the club.
2. Where are we with ground ownership
Little bit of a stall on this. It's with the legals due to some car parking issues outside the ground. But the deal with the council is done, terms have been agreed and now we're waiting for the solicitors to finish running up their bills.
3. Can the shop/ticket office be open passed 17:30
This is up for discussion at the board meeting on the 15th
The rest of it seems to be a few silly questions about cats or dogs and zombie attacks
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| So who'd be willing to coordinate and look after the fund if people wanted to put money toward a roof? It's a big responsibility.
Could we expect 3000 fans to individually cough up £50? I doubt it. It would need a lot more people than that.
Nice idea in theory though. I'd love to have a roof.
Good news about the shop/ticket office opening hours being discussed - perhaps it could open at 10am instead to be a bit fairer on staff if they're stopping until 6pm. I asked that one via Facebook. I see the online shop is also open now but haven't looked at it yet.
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| The Roof Fund sounds like a plan, I don't think it would be too difficult to organize, the only thing is it would either have to be open-ended, or maybe a long-stop "if the target of £X is not raised by Z date, then the amount in the fund be paid over instead to {Bullbuilder/whatever}
Otherwise you would have the impossible task of trying to arrange refunds.
I think it could be done. It would need some active fund raising as well as a straight rattling of buckets though, and so I think it depends if there is the willing from a small committee of keen people who wanted to set up and run the project. But done that way, you're not limited to fans chipping in, the fundraisers could approach anybody to try to get them to chip in, for a bit of farly economic free publicity
Obviously it is possible a decent wedge could also come from someone interested in buying the naming rights to the newly covered area.
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| I think the first order of business is to sort out ownership. I'm not contributing to a roof on a ground that we don't even own yet. Seems to me that it is essential to get the ground away from the RFL / Council before we start spending our (and it looks like it will be 'our') money
I'd also be interested to know what exploration there has been into alternative ways of (part?) funding it. Naming rights should bring in something, as well as some form of sponsorship / advertising. And what about seeing if there is a way to incorporate food concessions or even a bar? That would bring in rent and/or commission on sales. I've no idea if that's even feasible, but I thin kit should be explored.
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| I assume the food stands are concessions but is it right that we are now back to taking the income from the bars? I read in the free paper that half of anything we spend on beer counts towards increased salary cap
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| Couldn't the fans contribution be given to the club as a form of 'fans sponsorship'? Surely that would count as relevent income to increase our salary cap
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| Not sure if things have changed but when Gerry and Omar were in charge we asked Gerry about putting a roof over the pop terrace and we were told that there was some specific reason (foundations? drainage?) that meant it was either practically impossible or very expensive to do.
Perhaps they were just lying to us (quite possible) but I had given up hope of ever seeing a roof over that terrace.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Not sure if things have changed but when Gerry and Omar were in charge we asked Gerry about putting a roof over the pop terrace and we were told that there was some specific reason (foundations? drainage?) that meant it was either practically impossible or very expensive to do.
Perhaps they were just lying to us (quite possible) but I had given up hope of ever seeing a roof over that terrace.'"
Pretty certain issue with foundations was to provide an anchor for a cantilevered roof with no posts obstructing sight lines. Think this was costed at 3M plus. For 300k I'd expect were looking at something with supporting pillars and maybe not over full depth of stand. Given they've just renamed pop side not sure selling naming rights and renaming again would be something they would look at, unless membership voted on it and money from naming rights counted as part of fans 150k?
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| Quote ="paulwalker71":1xjxig8wI think the first order of business is to sort out ownership. I'm not contributing to a roof on a ground that we don't even own yet. Seems to me that it is essential to get the ground away from the RFL / Council before we start spending our (and it looks like it will be 'our') money
'" is really a non starter. It'll still be 'ours' long after we're all dead and gone.
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| Quote ="BigHeapOfBull"Couldn't the fans contribution be given to the club as a form of 'fans sponsorship'? Surely that would count as relevent income to increase our salary cap'"
Not sensibly, as if the money is being 100% spent on the new roof, how can half of it also be spent on wages? Mind you there have been some recent administrations who wouldn't see the problem with that
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| I still don't see why we can't just pop a sliding roof over the whole bowl like we were going to do approx. 57 architects' designs ago
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| Quote ="Bulliac"The point is, that under the lease, the ground is 'ours' for the next 100+ years so when that lease ends any stand is unlikely to be still standing and any worries about 'our' money going to others [unless there's an internal coup d'etat is really a non starter. It'll still be 'ours' long after we're all dead and gone.'"
IIRC the RFL owned head lease is 100 yrs+, which is remainder of our 125 yr lease which we sold them. Seem to remember our new sub lease from RFL was 20-30 yrs. Could be irrelevent if Green/Club buys freehold from council but do we then pay rent to RFL for a ground we hold freehold on?
If article on T&A is actually quoting Green verbatim with his comment about fans forming a Quango to raise half funds and he'll match it, then I think he's actually making offer a bit tongue in cheek with no real expectation that it will ever happen. But it puts ball back in fans court and stops people constantly asking about roof which he probably gets tired off.
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| Quote ="mat"Pretty certain issue with foundations was to provide an anchor for a cantilevered roof with no posts obstructing sight lines. Think this was costed at 3M plus. For 300k I'd expect were looking at something with supporting pillars and maybe not over full depth of stand. Given they've just renamed pop side not sure selling naming rights and renaming again would be something they would look at, unless membership voted on it and money from naming rights counted as part of fans 150k?'"
Peter Hood who was known not too tell an odd porkie quoted a figure of 10m + for a roof.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I still don't see why we can't just pop a sliding roof over the whole bowl like we were going to do approx. 57 architects' designs ago'"
FA are you volunteering to wind the roof on if it starts raining during a game
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| Why don't we raise £175k and buy a scrum half?
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| Martyn Ridyard is one of the best half backs in the Championship AND a qualified roofer. 2 birds 1 stone!
Yours for the low low price of just £500k + Gaskell
Call Derek Beaumont on 0800 RIDYARD today!
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Martyn Ridyard is one of the best half backs in the Championship AND a qualified roofer. 2 birds 1 stone!
Yours for the low low price of just £500k + Gaskell
Call Derek Beaumont on 0800 RIDYARD today!'"
He'd probably still tell us to f*ck off out of spite
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| I must be the only one who really doesn't care about a roof. It's just weather. Wear the appropriate clothing instead of all throwing £50 in and MAN UP.
(Yes, I appreciate it puts people off and some don't want to bring kids etc, but I'm being purely selfish here.....)
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| It's a fair shout, venue used 14 times a year, about 3 or 4 times in Feb and Mar when weather could be expected to be bad, i know it rains other times of the year, but Nothus has a point. as I said earlier, let's buy a scrum half if we have available funds
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Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Why don't we raise £175k and buy a scrum half?'"
According to our coach we don't need one!!!
m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... k_options/
Yet many others seem to believe we do... Including Ferres who is a major part of player recruitment!! Big sign of disconnect??
m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... onundrum_/
Naturally I really want Jimmy to succeed as our coach but I struggle to understand him sometimes... Far to stubborn to take the club forward IMO. If he can't see we lack a genuine 7 to take us to the next level then that's really worrying
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Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Why don't we raise £175k and buy a scrum half?'"
According to our coach we don't need one!!!
m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... k_options/
Yet many others seem to believe we do... Including Ferres who is a major part of player recruitment!! Big sign of disconnect??
m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/spo ... onundrum_/
Naturally I really want Jimmy to succeed as our coach but I struggle to understand him sometimes... Far to stubborn to take the club forward IMO. If he can't see we lack a genuine 7 to take us to the next level then that's really worrying
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| Let's hope he is playing it cool and not playing his hand in public. He has said if right player was available he would speak to Green. Question is, will jimmy enquire about the right player and try and force the issue? I somehow doubt it
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| I'm secretly hoping that is is case but I think we've known jimmy long enough now that "playin it cool" isn't his style!
As Ross H has suggested... What not ask the question about Brierley? It would appear there is some level of availability there.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I must be the only one who really doesn't care about a roof. It's just weather. Wear the appropriate clothing instead of all throwing £50 in and MAN UP.
(Yes, I appreciate it puts people off and some don't want to bring kids etc, but I'm being purely selfish here.....)'"
Weather protection is only half the reason we should have a roof imo. What we also would get would be a huge improvement in atmosphere from the sounds of singing not instantly being absorbed by the cavernous bowl. I confess I've rarely sang watching us at home because it's as effective as whistling out of the door on the international space station.
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Why don't we raise £175k and buy a scrum half?'"
Well, we do have a template for that - remember Derryck Fox, anyone?
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