Looks like we have 8 non-fed but rules state 7, so either someone didn't get a visa, they are no longer non-fed or....? I also thought only 3 of non-fed could be overseas or was it 5?

Taken form our squad thread:

Overseas and NonFed

Mark Offerdahl
Karl Davies
Jake Mullaney
Adrian Purtell
Adam Henry

Kolpak and NonFed

Etu Uaisele
Chris Ulugia
Harry Siejka

Harry was supposed to get his polish passport when playing for Wakefield but never did Perhaps he has now so doesnt count at all.

I would be very surprised if Ferres has got his numbers wrong. There must be someone who doesn't count. They probably haven't thought about explaining it as if the numbers are right there isn't a problem - so no explanation needed.
It should come out later when somebody asks them.

Surely for us to register them as players we have to go to the RFL to do that?

Mind you, the RFL aren't that hot on enforcing correct player registrations, are they?

if as seems likely Harry Siejka has now obtained his Polish passport, he is entitled to work or claim here as from EU member country

The non-fed ruling has absolutely nothing to do with what passports players have. All this talk of Polish passports means nothing.

If he has a polish passport he's classed as an EU citizen so rfl cant apply None fed rules him as would be in breach of EU regulations. We have signed a catalans player who is french but doesnt count towards quota or None fed.

Wow. Well if that's true then I take back what I said, and I've learned something new today.
Steve Ferres is certainly on the ball it seems.

Are there any other instances of this 'loophole' being exploited? I'm surprised it isn't a bit more commonplace.

Whatever how the rules are interpreted, it is wrong to allow so many non-British players to the game.

If Baille is a non fed that means we have 9!!!Obviously EU dont count.

Your correct about your French player not counting on non fed trained quota but its nothing to do with his eu passport. The passport is just to do with overseas quota.

All french players who've come through the French youth system are classed as fed trained. This was brought in a few years back to aid French development.

As to how we've got eight non fed, can only think of two explanations.

Firstly offerdahl has failed to get a visa and isn't coming. He was only player announced where they added caveat about signing subject to visa. Think this is most likely scenario.

Secondly there may have been some dispensation given to players from emerging nations who played in World Cup. Think I remember it being mentioned at time but don't remember a formal announcement. Offerdahl is obvious one who'd qualify for this if it did happen

No it's not. It's only wrong if it's against the rules. That's why we have rules. I have Steve Ferres down as a very cute cookie and, much as I confess I haven't worked it out yet, I trust him to be to the letter of the laws. If I'm honest, after the way we've been treat over last few years, I don't give fig for anyone else's 'moral' complications.

The RLEF would be the fed in question.

Perhaps on Mad Monday Adam Henry got sloshed, actually made a tackle on someone and has been booted out of the club.



But that sounds far fetched...

He wouldn't have made the tackle.

I'll be disappointed if Offerdahl doesn't get a visa, and it does bug me that it seems like a plausible scenario, he's probably the new import I'm most keen to see play.

I'm trying to come up with any, even remotely, likely scenario where the club wouldn't have announced, or the press wouldn't have picked up on, any terminal hitch in any of the previously announced signings, and I can't. Maybe some of the assumptions about other players, are just plain wrong?

I can only assume that the fed trained rules apply to Kolpaks only and not to full EU passport holders.

Cant see why he should have a problem getting a visa when last season he started the season with crusaders

I was just about to post this. He's already played plenty of rugby in this country so the visa shouldn't really be an issue.

Yeah, cos they're not gonna let something like THAT happen again

check the Bulls Official website at 5.00 pm

Something like what? He means NW Crusaders, not the shambolic Celtic variety.

Truth is I don't really know, but I can imagine that being the case.

It would be pretty pointless for the EU to bring in rules about enabling EU passport holders having the right to work all countries, if that could be overturned by some secondary subterfuge like 'fed trained' conditions being attached.

It's true to say it doesn't stop them being employed per se but it prevents them being employed in their normal profession as [i rugby players[/i, so it's the same thing by the back door, however you look at it.

Ah, I thought he was talking about those wacky Crusaders and their nutty visa games

Someone posted on Facebook that because we signed Adam Henry before he was 21 he doesn't count.....I checked and he was 22 when he signed.

Plus I believe French players don't count as they are part of Super League (Catalan Dragons) where as Poland, Samoa, Tonga, Aus, NZ aren't.

All are listed on the Bulls announcement too....

BRADFORD BULLS 2015 SQUAD

Karl Davies - (Prop)
(Two-Year Contract - Until 2016)

Adam Henry - (Wing/Centre)
(One-Year Contract - Until 2015)

Mark Offerdahl - (Prop/Second-Row)
(One-Year Contract - Until 2015)

Jake Mullaney - (Full-Back/Scrum-Half)
(One-Year Contract - Until 2015)

Adrian Purtell - (Centre/Second-Row/Wing)
(One-Year Contract - Until 2015)

Harry Siejka - (Scrum-Half)
(Two-Year Contract - Until 2016)

Etu Uaisele - (Wing/Centre)
(Two-Year Contract - Until 2016)

Chris Ulugia - (Wing/Centre/Full-Back)
(Two-Year Contract - Until 2016)

Including:

Jean Philippe-Baile - (Centre/Second-Row)
(One-Year Contract - Until 2015)