does anyone know if green has enough money to bring in better players. Know he has turnovers of 45 million for his companies. surely he could get us some better players. Surely some players knocking about in NSW cup and queensland cup if not nrl and how about rugby union, doesnt count on the cap too. Or even championship at the minute

we cant sign overseas players until our license to apply for visas is transferred across to new holding company. once that happens we then have to start applying for visas which usually takes a few weeks. union players not counting on cap is pretty irrelevent as cap space isnt an issue.

forgot about that pal

Most people still talk solely about Mr Green doing things. I believe it will mostly come down to what Ferres says to him this week and in the next few weeks. Everything I have been told about Ferres is that he is a very astute manager who likes things done his way and won't put up with a "fudge" job. A tough cookie is how one experienced person described him. This is probably what we now need but has he come in too late to save us.

If we go down no doubt Green and Co will get the blame but it may already be too late. We can't get overseas players in for about another month. Nobby is being called for but he is probably tied in to Salford contract till the legal people have got him the best deal before he can leave.
It is a shame Ferres wasn't OK's first signing instead of Whittcut.

It just feels like we are dying a death from a thousand cuts and are being slowly prepared for the drop week by week so it isn't a shock to us all when it gets confirmed in August.

The world and his wife will have their own personal 'bad guy' if we go down, that's just the way it is, I'm afraid. Truth is, that no 'one person' can control what happens and it certainly won't be the personal doing of Whitcut, OK, Green, the coach or any other individual. Much more a combination of factors coming together.

That won't stop some people blaming some poor hapless player who misses a tackle, or knocks on in the last minute of the last match - it'll all be his fault....

Apparently on Boots n All tonight. I'd watch but it means sitting through Boots n All.

Well they say on Facebook, he'll be on about 6:20. So that'll save you 20 minutes of tedious waffle.

I don't expect him to say anything out of the ordinary.

Something along the lines of "it was a very bad performance, the players are embarrassed, I'm embarrassed, FC is working hard to put matter right, we will be looking to play much better in our next game...."

If you're waiting to tune in, it's now 18:12 and he'll be on at the end of the current break

Looked irritated by Bill Arthur's questioning. Wakey bloke stuck the knife in a bit, not fair and so on. Not fair we were effectively fined 1.2 million unlike any other club.

Yeah my impression was he came across as very defensive when asked anything. Also interesting how the interviewer never asked the Wakefield chairman how he feels about benefitting from our money and two players as a result of the admin.

Must say I have to agree with Carter's viewpoint in all of this. Wakefield would not have got Sammut and Scruton had Bradford taken the action Wakefield did in selling players to stave of admin they would have gone elsewhere. It was only Carter's careful budgeting that aloud them to buy these players when the£300k windfall came along.

Hold the front page. Wakefield fan agrees with Wakefield chairman.

Waste of time.

We all agree with you on here,obviously

Did Carter say anything like if we are allowed to sign any players he will spit his dummy out and walk away

My thoughts. Green seemed defensive. Carter came across very well and can't really disagree with Carter said. Seems very level headed.
The sky money is a separate issue. End of day he is right, it is unfair if we went into admin and didnt get punished.

Just watched Boots N All,did I miss where Carter thanked the Bulls for donating 100 grand to them.Me thinks Carter chooses to ignore that fact

The Bulls have every right to appeal if it's in the rules. Every other side -like Green said- signed up to the same rules at the start of the season. Therefore, every team has to abide by the appeals panel's decision. They'll either find in our favour or not in our favour. It really is as simple as that.

Carter just looks unprofessional crying like a spoilt brat. But let's get this straight he's put his own house up for capital to keep wakefield going. We all know now you should live within your means wakefield are clearly not . They've been in admin twice already. Unprofessional in the extreme to gamble like that. Cut your cloth carter before crying to the media. He'll reap what he's sowing alright

We had a fairly well balanced viewpoint from Marc Green, who as you said was a bit on the defensive side which is quite understandable in the circumstances.

Carter on the other hand, didn't do his silly campaign against us any favours, for which I personally am quite happy about.
For example the amount they owed HMRC was in excess of £300k, and I assume the other £250k was to stave of the 9 CCJs, plus I understand Sir Rodney Walker loaned them cash.

Reported in a Wakefield paper last August>
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats were half-an-hour from becoming a Championship One club according to chairman Michael Carter.
In an exclusive interview with the Wakefield Express this week, Carter explains how close Trinity came to going into administration and falling out of Super League.
Looking back on the moment in August when he and director Chris Brereton took over at the club, Carter said: “We were half-an-hour from going into administration. Me and Chris were sat there at the point where we had to sign up to get a loan from the RFL and we both thought: ‘Are we going to do this or not?’ We believed what we could do at the club and we believed that we could take the loan and pay it back over the next 18 months but it was that close.

And previous report from Andrew Glover.
The Wildcats were faced with a winding-up petition from HM Revenue and Customs over an unpaid tax bill of more than £300,000 and their financial difficulties resurfaced recently when Glover revealed the club had been the subject of nine county court judgments.
Unquote:

Of course the putting up the Houses is a bit of a Red Herring, how is that anything to do with our appeal? When Carter has stated that they knew it could be paid off in 18 months. From the money coming into the club?

ie Full Sky money of £1.2 million per year, an extra £100k fromthe share out of Bulls sky package, plus of course the additional £300k from the pre Sky payment this year and a further £100k in July.
Grand total £1.7m !

Mr Carter I am not impressed with your assessment????

Carter put his house up not to keep us going but against not being able to fulfil his obligations to the RFL.
As for living within you means, don't think you can preach.
Carter said that they spend half of the 300,000 extra money on repaying the loan to the RFL, I would say that's pretty responsible.
The Bulls have right to appeal but they are in a no lose situation regarding the points deduction, it can't be increased only reduced.

Wakefield weren't living within their means then you just said it. You reap what you sow.

Cut your cloth accordingly and stop looking for credit it's what you are supposed to do.



If your supporters club are going to write ill informed letters about the rules being followed you can't then whinge about the rules being followed. Trying to attempt to sway the independent panel's decision could backfire.

I just don't see how he can keep a straight face when the grounds of your appeal is force majeure!

surely the only way you can justify getting points back is by paying some of the creditors. If that was the basis of your appeal, then I don't think there could be any complaint about you getting 2 back

Depends what the circumstances of the losses were. Which is why it's going to appeal. Which, as a member club/chairman, Wakey/Mr carter have already signed up to abide by their decision.

The cost of the appeal is met by the party making the appeal, so it is incorrect to say there is no downside.

Sorry didn't realise you've been involved with the management of the bulls and know everything that went on.

So what part of the sorry mess was unforseen and unavoidable?