Simple question, is he?

Take sentiment out of the argument.

For my money I reckon that our side should not be getting an absolute pasting every week. Okay the squad is small but we still have enough quality available in order to be more competitive.

I don't think he is. Thoughts?

No! Simple answer

Don't disagree with that. I think it's the Coaching Staff that needs strengthening.

I feel sorry for the guy, but looks like a rabbit in the headlights. Name one player who has improved since he took over as head coach apart from Chev Walker!

As has already been said he isn't. We have a core of players there who are far better than they are showing. The buck stops with the manager for that. The team selections, substitutions & tactics have been strange last week & this. We need back room staff with fresh ideas & if we are sticking with Cummins he needs someone experienced to aid him in these areas.

I admire Cummins for sticking by the squad but Mr Green needs to have a word. Vast improvement in next couple of weeks otherwise we need to find a new coach. We play like that against Saints, Wire or Wigan and they actually get out of 1st gear, we will have a point a minute put passed us.

We had a good squad and fell away baldy after Easter including two defeats against London. I'd like to see the win percentage in theist 12 months.

There's just nothing from the team at the moment.
No skill, no attack, no defence, no aggression, no passion and no effort.

I looked at the last squad McNamara had the other day, and it was far stronger than the squad we put out today.

People say we have enough quality, but I don't really see it.

Look at our forwards - Would any of them get into a top 8 team? Same with the halfs, and backs.

With the exception of Kearney and Ferguson, is our remaining squad actually SL standard? The players that have left this season have reduced the quality dramatically.

Well Ferguson was a regular for Huddersfield last season, and I suspect Donaldson would have plenty of interest if he was available

But apart from that...yes.. I take your point

Apart from the apparently much-coveted Luke Gale - although I cannot for the life of me see why the likes of Hull seem to be so interested in him

Ferguson and Kearney are the 2 I think would attract interest. Donno has had a really decent season but it's only the first season that he's made such an impact. Here's hoping that his injury isn't as bad as it sounds, and he can continue improving.

I get that Cummins is a rookie coach, but the squad he is working with is probably the worst in Bulls history. We currently need all players to play above what they are used to.

I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. Is the current squad playing to the best of their ability abilities? Certainly not. But we have a squad of players where a good percentage would struggle to get a game at the higher end clubs in SL.

The gulf in quality between us and Leeds is simply huge right now. No amount of coaching, enthusiasm or effort is going to close that gap. We need some experience and quality bringing into the squad ASAP. Sadly I don't see where we will get the players we need. Unless our appeal is successful, I'm struggling to see a way back for us.

I wonder how many Cas fans said this last year? In fact a you could say same this year. Powell has everyone of then players giving it their all and playing to their max every game. Those players give everything on the field.

I can taken losing to a team who plays well and being beaten on skill etc What I will never accept as paying fan is lack of passion, fire and effort. It was gutless performances tonight.

Come home Franny! Leave the ingrates and sit at Brian's side. Work with the likes of Watkins, Hall, BJB, Wardy, Singo, Sutcliffe, Briscoe(s)...etc
Having to try to get the best out of the likes of Luke Gale must be soul-destroying.

No argument from me. Give me a ring, I'll get the car out and take you myself.
Possibly you are too nice for head coach but that team needs a serious kicking.

1-7 is pretty much his team. Sure, the pack's been ripped apart but the backline hasn't. Yet on the occasion we're actually attacking we lose all structure and our passing across the field is awful.
Defensive line speed was poor last season but now it's non existant.
FC has some genuine excuses but these are basics.

I am unsure why people are mentioning players being good enough for a top 8 side. I said nothing about that. We are a long way off that quality at the moment and I do not expect it either.

What gets me is that we are getting a complete going over in every game now and it looks like we will need to score 40+ points a game, with an apparently shocking attack, to get anything, given how many we concede.

That 1-17 named last night, on paper, looked not bad. Yet clearly something is FAR wrong.

Oh, and BTW, this is not a "cummins out" thread, just a genuine question to people who see it every week.

After last night it is obvious the quality is just not there to work with. Struth, Wayne Bennett would not get anything out of that six pack Gale is trying to work behind a beaten ,cannot be d/unfit pack. Sows ear and silk purse come to mind. The only glint of gold : Bradford are marginally less dire than Wakefield. Now that match should be a nail biting championship decider.

Hard to argue that team is firing on all its available cylinders. I know it's not the question asked but I thought we were too light up front before Carvell and Scruton left. Fakir isn't fit and atm is limited to either holding on to the ball or running with it. Both at the same time look a week or two away yet. Not sure how much of a plan you can realistically have when your front line is made of tissue paper.

That said, the only people who have consistently impressed me with their enthusiasm this year though have been Kear and Donno, maybe Purtell too. There have been flashes from others but only in spells. That definitely needs to change. If it wasn't already obvious from his whole demeanour then we've seen plenty of hints from player interviews that Cummins is a matey coach who persuades rather than a leader who demands and gets. That definitely has its place but it's not a one size fits all solution and I'm not sure he can wear that other hat. Somebody needs to.

I can see Noble back before end of the month

Michael Platt signs for Salford???

Ok but you have to ask why there isn't the quality to work with at the moment. That has to be down to Cummins ability to retain our best players. I think it's been widely commented on here that whitehead, heath and sammut didn't get on with him. Ok scrutes left because he wanted financial security but I think that was only part of the reason the others did. How much better would we be with those 3 in our team? Anyone who thinks Cummins is great because he's managed to keep the squad we've got now, do you think they'd be here if anyone else would take them? Why did he do everything he could to stop gale leaving but then actively encourage anyone else "who didn't want to be here" to get out? Poor people management skills if you ask me.

That pretty much is my initial response to the question. I think vbfg sums it up well. I heard Madely on the radio recently saying how much Cummins has had to support the players during the problems; now they have no excuses & need to man up a bit. My fears about Cummins mental strength are that he is not up to bollocking players that need it, especially those physically & mentally stronger than him. He deserves the chance but that only lasts so long.

Linking this to the need to target games for wins, if we are going to change coaches, needs to be very soon, allow a new coach to work with the team for a few games before we get to the games we need to target like Hull, HKR, Cats, Widnes, as well as Wakey etc.

What also "annoys" me is that there seems to be an acceptance from within the club that we are not going to win certain games and that it is already written off as a loss. What attitude does this give out to the players and the fans? If we HAVE all but accepted that we are going to get a doing in the next three games then surely it would make more sense to rest the senior players and send the kids out. After all, what difference would it make?

As many on here have stated, myself included, it is going to be tough to survive but, from afar, it just looks like we are just sitting ducks at the moment and, rather than just losing (which I believe we would all accept), we seem to be not even remotely competing (which I am sure we WON'T acccept).

Something needs to happen fast or else we are just going to go down without so much as a whimper and that is what is the most galling aspect of the lot. It is all well and good pointing towards the failings of Wakefield but they are still 6 points ahead of us at the moment, and the only games I see as a realistic win between now and the end of the season are the return fixtures between them and London. Where are the rest going to come from?

I was working last night, and every time I refreshed the web, we had conceded another score, and the view on here is that Leeds did not even break sweat in the game. That is unacceptable and it would be nice to hear the views of the club about it and how they intend to address the issue.

I KNOW that things are difficult, but the silence is absolutely deafening.

You would have to think that confidence is low within the squad right now. It has to be demoralising to continually losing the battle in the middle. Take Chev Walker for example, he often cops some stick from certain sections of our support. But when he runs the ball in, you can see he is going into the collision 100%. He is often stopped dead in his tracks though, he just doesn't have the size to play Prop against the better sides.

We aren't helping ourselves though, how often do we gift opposition possession on our line from concentration errors? I suspect FC will be under massive pressure from the fans if we roll over and get hammered in the next 4/5 SL games. FC seems to be pinning his hopes that once a Easter is over with, players will become available lets hope a few things fall in our favour.

I really do feel now that the points appeal will decide our fate, if 6 pts is upheld we surely have to have a plan in place for competing in SL 2 in 2015.

There is one small flaw with targeting games, what if we don't win them. I'm presuming our "target" games
Are Wakey, London, Cas, KR & Widnes.
Now we have ready lost to 3 of those teams, you can see the flaw in the plan. We Are also forgetting about Wakey. We need to make up 6 points on them just to get even. That's if Wakey lose all their games, they're still gonna win some so we NEED to beat the big boys.