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| I am sure that Guilfool and associates will forgo their £200,000 odd in the interests of the club, I mean, he said all along that's what he wanted - what's best for the club.
£200,000 for what exactly?
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| Quote ="debaser"I am sure that Guilfool and associates will forgo their £200,000 odd in the interests of the club, I mean, he said all along that's what he wanted - what's best for the club.
£200,000 for what exactly?'"
It's no surprise that there will be no money left for the creditors once Guilfoyle has covered his fees.
FWIW I was speaking with Shaun McRae at Belle Vue last night and he thought that the Bulls would be in SL next year. This was mainly because there's a clear desire to see SL remain at 14 clubs and he felt that any of the contenders to take the Bulls' place would be on a hiding to nothing over the next two years if they were brought in to SL, when the likelihood would be that the Bulls would be brought back at the first opportunity.
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| Interesting to see they owe NAK Corporate World around £70k. Hood's a director there.. they provide a website. No way the old website cost that to design, run and maintain...
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| no they should be not allowed in the sl
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| Oldham Roughyeds 1997
this will not happen to Bradford, it should as a WARNING to other SL clubs, but it won't.......no way.
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| Quote ="bigcol2"no they should be not allowed in the sl'"
Mate, you are obsessed with us. We'll still be here don't you worry about it.
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| For such a small sport, I find it staggering how keen some other supporters are to see Bradford dumped into the lower leagues. If a review proves that the sport would benefit from seeing the Bulls dropped and another club come up.. then fair enough.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"For such a small sport, I find it staggering how keen some other supporters are to see Bradford dumped into the lower leagues. If a review proves that the sport would benefit from seeing the Bulls dropped and another club come up.. then fair enough.'"
A ' review ' ? , would that be by the same ' reviewer ' that gave an almost bancrupt club a ' B' licence less than 12 months previously?
If the mess your club has created and the damage it has done to the credibility of the sport isnt enough to see you lose your SL place, then our small sport will not be getting any bigger, and nothing any ' lesser ' club could do would make it any worse
Maybe we could have one of you creditors ' review ' you to see where they think you should play? , how many were there? , seven pages of them, 150 grands worth
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| Glasgow Rangers.....
RFL don't have the b@lls.
SPL/DIV 1 etc will miss Rangers far more than SL would miss Bradford.
Nothing personal, but with 'franchising' this was to prevent crusaders/london/bradford situations.
ha ha ha
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| Quote ="Starbug"A ' review ' ? , would that be by the same ' reviewer ' that gave an almost bancrupt club a ' B' licence less than 12 months previously?
If the mess your club has created and the damage it has done to the credibility of the sport isnt enough to see you lose your SL place, then our small sport will not be getting any bigger, and nothing any ' lesser ' club could do would make it any worse
Maybe we could have one of you creditors ' review ' you to see where they think you should play? , how many were there? , seven pages of them, 150 grands worth'"
So we just completely ignore the good work that the club did at the start of the SL era? The good news stories that the club did create? A team that participtes in one of the biggest derby games in RL? A team that has been involved in 2 of the 3 highest attendances of this year? A team with one of the strongest supporter base in SL? A team that has proved it can be the very best in SL and on the world stage, despite having no sugar daddy? A team who's supporters were prepared to blindly pledge money for no return other than to try and save the club? A club who's staff worked for no pay such was their passion for the club?
Feel free to add to the list... I'm sure there is plenty that I've missed. Do you truly believe that kicking Bradford out is in the best interest of the game of RL? Or is it just purely for selfish and vindictive reasons?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Glasgow Rangers.....
RFL don't have the b@lls.
SPL/DIV 1 etc will miss Rangers far more than SL would miss Bradford.
Nothing personal, but with 'franchising' this was to prevent crusaders/london/bradford situations.
ha ha ha'"
I think you forget the fact that Scottish Football is far stronger than Super League in terms of financial clout.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"A team who's supporters were prepared to blindly pledge money for no return other than to try and save the club? '"
Interesting point that, as I was damn sure your BoD told all you supportes that the pledge had passed the £500k mark, however in that article it says "The pledges from fans raised just over £400,000" mmmmmm
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"So we just completely ignore the good work that the club did at the start of the SL era? The good news stories that the club did create? A team that participtes in one of the biggest derby games in RL? A team that has been involved in 2 of the 3 highest attendances of this year? A team with one of the strongest supporter base in SL? A team that has proved it can be the very best in SL and on the world stage, despite having no sugar daddy? A team who's supporters were prepared to blindly pledge money for no return other than to try and save the club? A club who's staff worked for no pay such was their passion for the club?
Feel free to add to the list... I'm sure there is plenty that I've missed. Do you truly believe that kicking Bradford out is in the best interest of the game of RL? Or is it just purely for selfish and vindictive reasons?'" But that's the point you are now a newCo.
You have dumped all that in the bin for a fresh start.
You can't have it both ways.
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| TBH, reading the, so called, arguments put forward by certain fans who are calling for Bradford's expulsion from the league I find myself put in mind of a small child throwing a tantrum.
You just know they were rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of the Bulls going out of business, but now that little joy has been snatched from them, they're rolling on the ground screaming and crying about how unfair it all is and how they're not able to enjoy the demise of our club.
And I must say, that thought makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"So we just completely ignore the good work that the club did at the start of the SL era? The good news stories that the club did create? A team that participtes in one of the biggest derby games in RL? A team that has been involved in 2 of the 3 highest attendances of this year? A team with one of the strongest supporter base in SL? A team that has proved it can be the very best in SL and on the world stage, despite having no sugar daddy? A team who's supporters were prepared to blindly pledge money for no return other than to try and save the club? A club who's staff worked for no pay such was their passion for the club?
Feel free to add to the list... I'm sure there is plenty that I've missed. Do you truly believe that kicking Bradford out is in the best interest of the game of RL? Or is it just purely for selfish and vindictive reasons?'"
You miss the point of my argument, your ' missdemeanour ' either deserves demotion or it doesnt, I couldnt care less, but to suggest that it is possible to somehow compare the Bulls against Leigh,Fax or Fev in an impartial way is just ridiculous, your place in SL was confirmed when the clubs decided it would remain at 14 , any ' contest ' would be pointless
As for any previous ' contribution ' to the Sport or SL, that really is irrelivant
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"But that's the point you are now a newCo.
You have dumped all that in the bin for a fresh start.
You can't have it both ways.'"
Well there seems to be conflicting arguments going on here. Do you think there is a NL club that currently has more to offer SL than a Newco Bradford or are you just looking to further punish the Bulls by relegating them?
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Interesting point that, as I was damn sure your BoD told all you supportes that the pledge had passed the £500k mark, however in that article it says "The pledges from fans raised just over £400,000" mmmmmm
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The pledge total included more than just the fans pledges. If you cannot be bothered to find out what they were, I won't waste my time telling you.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Well there seems to be conflicting arguments going on here. Do you think there is a NL club that currently has more to offer SL than a Newco Bradford or are you just looking to further punish the Bulls by relegating them?'"
1st of all the ' NL s ' ended 4 years ago ( your ignorance shows there ) , the point is you either carry over everything, ( previous history,attendances,all the good stuff and all the bad stuff, 1.5 million debts ) or its a clean slate all over, and everything you put forward is ' speculative '
How you compare to other clubs, be they SL or not should not be the deciding factor of you remaining in SL, you stay or go on your merits or failings, not somebody elses
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| OIC, there was a "Pledge" and a "Pledge "
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| Still yes, the same as yesterday when this was asked, and the day before that......
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Well there seems to be conflicting arguments going on here. Do you think there is a NL club that currently has more to offer SL than a Newco Bradford or are you just looking to further punish the Bulls by relegating them?'" Well as a NewCo asking for a licence you should only be able to put in a speculative case in, Which was the reason I believe Fax were turned down.
But it seems you want to be able to walk away from debt that your club ran up and then still be able to use attendances from that period as a reason to get a licence.
Like I say you shouldn't be able to have it both ways even though you all seem to think you should.
Also that punishment was meeted out to the OldCo not your NewCo.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"I think you forget the fact that Scottish Football is far stronger than Super League in terms of financial clout.'"
I know, not personal....if anything like this should happen again in SL, should be demotion, but how can they if they don't do it to Bradford.. Nevertheless, i DO feel sorry for all YOU fans....all the best for 2013 onwards, whichever league you're in.
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| It would also be sensible to point out that a large percentage of SL chairmen have come out in support of Bradford staying in SL. Now, these are men who are looking at the business of RL and feel that having Bradford there would be of benefit to them as I doubt their motives are based on something like sentimentality and are more likely based on "what's best for the business of my club"
Sure, Championship club chairmen would want us expelled, but not for any of these "good name of the sport" arguments that have been thrown around. No, they'd want us out of SL so there'd be a chance for their club to take our place at the sport's top table. And again we find ourselves with motives based not on sentimentality but on what is best for them that stand to profit.
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