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| Admin in the next week or so, new company then set up by Chris Caisley and Julian Rhodes(of bradford city)
Not my usual source so not sure on this one
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| mmmmm.... would this mean a move to Valley Parade...??? if so the RFL are left with a hole in the ground and no team.....can't see them looking on that favourably for a future franchise....
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| If you move i can see them removing your franchise.
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| Would a Bulls team that had been re-located to VP have a right to play in SL? If I were a member of the RFL and had recently parted with £1.25m to secure the lease on Odsal, I would be doing everything legally within my power to prevent it.
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| Why the assumption that just because someone mentioned Julian Rhodes that it automatically means relocating to Valley Parade?
Julian Rhodes doesn't own Valley Parade nor does he have any say who plays there
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Why the assumption that just because someone mentioned Julian Rhodes that it automatically means relocating to Valley Parade?
Julian Rhodes doesn't own Valley Parade nor does he have any say who plays there
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Plus he struggles funding city. Could well be he's doing a pearson and pulling out of city and putting his money into rugby instead. Can't see RFL allowing us to retain our franchise if we upped sticks to VP leaving them with a White elephant.
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| I would expect there to be something in the lease binding Bulls to play there. Presumably that would be null & void if they went into admin? As long as the son of Bulls were still a big draw, at VP or Odsal, the RFL couldn't afford to be bitter & twisted & not grant a licence.
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| Perhaps the RFL would simply sell the lease on for a tidy profit? I expect a
piece of land that big right next to the motorway might be appeal to certain businesses.
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| Well wasn't that the big story told when the lease was sold to the RFL? That unscrupulous people were looking at the club solely to get their hands on the land the stadium is built on?
TBH, I've always felt that Odsal is a prime location for a stadium. You've got decent facilities round the ground (food, drink etc) and you're almost slap bang on the motorway.
That being said however, I'm not against a move to VP. It'd certainly tick all the boxes for stadia in the franchise stakes and if we're hitting admin then we need to pick up our scores in other areas to compensate.
Also, as much as Odsal is a spiritual home for the Bulls, home is where your hat rests and if the choice came to keeping in SL and playing at VP or dropping down a division to stay at Odsal, then I'd say let's get down to Manningham
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| A move to Manningham would be the beginning of the end for the Bulls, ask Bradford Park Avenue!
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| Quote ="tigertot"I would expect there to be something in the lease binding Bulls to play there. Presumably that would be null & void if they went into admin? As long as the son of Bulls were still a big draw, at VP or Odsal, the RFL couldn't afford to be bitter & twisted & not grant a licence.'"
Bradford hope!
ooooooo its all very exciting.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"... I'm not against a move to VP. It'd certainly tick all the boxes for stadia in the franchise stakes ...'"
Apart, perhaps, a pretty fundamental one which is not having a reasonable sized rugby pitch upon which to play SL.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I would expect there to be something in the lease binding Bulls to play there. Presumably that would be null & void if they went into admin? As long as the son of Bulls were still a big draw, at VP or Odsal, the RFL couldn't afford to be bitter & twisted & not grant a licence.'"
When Bulls returned from VP the last time, the Odsal settlement, whereby the club received money upfront (ostensibly to pay for some of the costs of upkeep, which became the club's responsibility) contained a clause to the effect that some of that cash would have to be repaid if they didn't play around 90% of home games at Odsal until (I think) 2018. I guess that in the case of insolvency and winding up then that would disappear along with everything else.
Not sure about admin though; if the same company comes out the other side of admin, even with new owners, then probably the liabilities and responsibilities under the lease will remain, unless they can be re-negotiated?
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| Same company virtually never does.
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| correct Bulliac, May 2019 to be overprecise, the repayment is given in the 2010 accounts as £1.4M, a guesstimate of it as of today would be around the £1.0M mark. It would not surprise me if the notification to go into admin is a negotiating ploy, to either reduce rent at Odsal or to get rid of this contingent liability so that a move to VP is possible.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"correct Bulliac, May 2019 to be overprecise, the repayment is given in the 2010 accounts as £1.4M, a guesstimate of it as of today would be around the £1.0M mark. It would not surprise me if the notification to go into admin is a negotiating ploy, to either reduce rent at Odsal or to get rid of this contingent liability so that a move to VP is possible.'"
The move to VP is being continually touted.
One of the often repeated assumptions about VP is that the Gibb pension fund (owners of the ground) would simply allow both clubs to share the current rental paid by City. I've got to say I can't imagine why this would actually be the position. I suspect they would be rubbing their hands, to be honest, especially if the Bulls burn their boats at Odsal. If it is the case that the current board is moving along those lines I hope Mr coulby (or whoever is running the show) keeps his wits about him.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Perhaps the RFL would simply sell the lease on for a tidy profit? I expect a
piece of land that big right next to the motorway might be appeal to certain businesses.'"
As I see it Bradford City Council own the land, the RFL own a long lease from BCC
If the RFL wanted to sell that long lease to a developer it would need the permission of the council.
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| I think in the current economic climate providing you handed over some cash to the council they would let you use the ground for nuclear testing. Though to be fair such activity has not exactly helped the game in Cumbria!
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| Quote ="Bulliac" I hope.....whoever is running the show... keeps his wits about him.'"
I agree with your view on vp, we would be in an exceptionally weak position regarding negotiating with any of the parties involved, and the only long term winner in that scenario imo is the pension fund.
The above quote is also why I have little confidence atm, when was the last time someone running our club appeared to have their wits (or common sense) about their person?
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"I think in the current economic climate providing you handed over some cash to the council they would let you use the ground for nuclear testing. Though to be fair such activity has not exactly helped the game in Cumbria!'"
Might do though. The government has almost finalised a deal with Cumbria to give them a £quadragazillion to build a megadump underground for storing nuclear waste. By analogy to what cam out of the Yorkshire pits in the game's heyday, Cumbria could do the same, only with the added benefit of mutants.
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| Just a thought. It might mean that City are relocating to Odsal
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| Quote ="Mrs. Slocombe"Just a thought. It might mean that City are relocating to Odsal'"
That's always a possibility, though haven't City just spent quite a lot of money on some new offices at VP?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Might do though. The government has almost finalised a deal with Cumbria to give them a £quadragazillion to build a megadump underground for storing nuclear waste. By analogy to what cam out of the Yorkshire pits in the game's heyday, Cumbria could do the same, only with the added benefit of mutants.'"
We've already got Mutants down here, AKA the Coal Munchers from the towns around that Big Racecourse on 62.
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| I understand that the sponsors we are in talks with are Isle of Man-based Excalibur Almaz. They are seemingly able to sell tickets to [url=http://news.uk.msn.com/firm-to-offer-expeditions-to-moon fly yourself to the Moon[/url on board an ancient Soviet craft which was never designed for space travel but low Earth orbit, for £100 million a pop. If he can sell them, he would surely piiss all over selling 10,000 season tickets at a piffling £150?
Also we are on our last legs, but the Isle of Man has three, so it all makes sense.
Finally, I understand that if we paid our players whilst they were in orbit around the Moon, these payments would be subject only to the tax regime of that celestial body (currently nil), and not Earth, and I'm sure our new sponsors would sneak one a week aboard for us as part of the deal.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"We've already got Mutants down here, AKA the Coal Muchers from the towns around that Big Racecourse on 62.'"
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