I predict we'll finish bottom and I can't see us winning 2 more games

No creativity (Herbert is the worst overseas signing we've ever made, said so after I'd seen him play once and the post is on here), no enthusiasm, no energy, we're not fit enough (Wire were out drilling before us today and stayed out after we'd gone in, with very intense preparation), we have no pace, and we have no bloody clue.

What does Potter do with them all week? It's impossible for any coach with half a brain to have a team so badly drilled after nearly SEVEN months of working with them full time.

We've made some terrible signings, and this is the worst Bradford team I've seen in a long time, I'm absolutely devastated about what's happening to the club I've supported for 35 years.

Potter must go and please take our inept Chairman with you!

MP & PH out. But who in?

Noble and Caisley will likely be the reply...

If only the Bulls could show the passion and fight that Wakefield are showing after all their probs .

Ok Noble and Caisley. They can come in and ruin the club again like they did last time. Or maybe Iestyn Harris, we can pay him bankrupting amounts of money and gloss over his mediocrity again like Noble and Caisley did. Remember?

Potter and Hood out. Nontryer, nonperforming players, well, its not their fault, is it

We have been for 3 years. McNamara saw to that, but we don't have the backing financially that the other big guns do now and we'd better get used to it. We've had our moments of glory and the future is mediocrity and occasional bright moments

By the way, I started watching Northern in 1964 and haven't missed alot since then, but this is up there among the low points (or is it down there?) in all that time. Full time players, full time coaching staff, part time effort and commitment. Junk.

the difference is, you can lose even heavily, and it's still fine and I can go home happy, if the ladss tried, and did their best.

I did not go home happy today.

When you look at the club history we seem to get a good side together every 30 years or so.

We'll be back amongst the honours in 2035...

The only thing Peter Hood has to answer for is why he left it so long to act when it became apparent that McNamara was out of his depth.

Bring back noble

Having seen you today i disagree you're the worst side in Super League. I think you're marginly better than Crusaders.

Can somebody ban this tool. he is a wind up merchant of the highest order, and gives wire a bad name.

Warrington were no more than average today....we reached a new low. Utterly disgraceful! Lets hope we can get a sugar daddy like Warrington did with Simon Moran...turned a joke of a club into a contender overnight. Now we're rapidly becoming a joke unfortunately>

Miles ahead of you.

Overnight? Moran has been at the club for nearly 7 years now - even before he bought the club we were in the process of sorting ourselves out off the pitch with the new stadium etc. Our improvement has not come about overnight but is the result of steady progress over a number of years including a greater degree of professionalism both on and off the pitch including superb work from our academy which I do not doubt we will benefit from in the years to come.

A sugar daddy is not what you need - and is not the reason for our recent upturn in fortunes. It is clear (albeit from the outside looking in) that the whole club needs reorganising.

Believe what you want, anyone with half a brain can see what is going on here.

You are lucky in being able to get a new stadium! We have been trying for 35 years to get a fit for purpose stadium. Every single time we get thwarted. A financial backer is what we need...If you believe that you coukl have done what you've done (2 Challenge Cups..no Super League Title btw), without Moran you are utterly deluded!

Sorry, but that is bollox.

I probably know a lot more about this than you do, for a number of reasons. What the Bulls needs desperately is MONEY. To spend on all the off-field structure, on the academy (how else can the likes of you and Hudds keep making much bigger offers to our academy lads than we can?) and on marketing. Wire, Saints, Wigan, Leeds, Hudds, Quins, HKR and Salford all have wealthy owners -who have been prepared to bankroll the clubs when and where necessary. We have none. Go figure?

And we desperately need a new stadium. How much did your stadium cost (the very insolvent) Warrington Rugby League club company? Funnily enough, you won't see the stadium in the club accounts, but in those of the separate stadium holding company. Same as Hudds. Where did the money come from to pay for the HJ? Not from the club. One little clue: You and Wigan and Saints (for example) all got new stadia on the back of a big Tesco development. Other new stadia are on the back of sizeable retail components (apart from the KC, which was built using a massive council windfall). Our useless worthless dungheap of a council effectively made sure we were stopped from doing likewise with Tesco (even though they then proceeded to sanction TWO other huge new Tesco developments in the city). Funnily enough, at a time when the pressure on the Bulls to move in with Bradford City to rescue them was intense. Go figure?

And that is to ignore all the tittle-tattle about how Wire and some other clubs seem to be able to get far more value out of the supposedly fixed salary cap than other less fortunate clubs. We may not be spending the full cap, but the difference in quality - and presumably cost? - on the park today was startling.

If you are so clever, pray tell us, specifically, what needs re-organising? And, more to the point, how you would set about paying for it?

Imagine if Ken Morrison bought the Bulls and pumped money into it

I wouldn't mind the Bulls playing at Morrison Stadium



And Adeybull they probably pay the players money (eg. Lee Briers on £80,000 a year and he gets a £100,000 bonus at the end of year or he get £80,000 a year and his bonus is £50,000 a year while his wife gets £50,000 a year being a receptionist in the club office). The numbers are not exact but use them as examples.

As said previously I wouldn't fancy us in beating any sides in this competition. We are simply that poor and I cant quite believe the deluded statement's coming from the likes of Langley saying that he believes where a top five side.

We are a joke and only we could concede up to thirty points whilst in possession of the football !

Their club was seriously insolvent. Without Moran I (and most of their fans that I have spoken too) doubt they would be here in SL today. Same as Shudds and Davy, Stains and McManus and Leeds and Caddick (in the early years of SL), as examples.

Those clubs' good fortune, and good luck to them. Its hardly their fault that we have not found a sugar daddy of our own. And some shrewd businessmen amongst them - Davy and McManus I especially admire. But anyone who thinks any of those clubs would have got to where they are now without their wealthy backers (or equivalent) is indeed fooling themselves. Indeed, most fans of those clubs fully recognise and appreciate what their owners have done for them.

I won't, because they are not relevant.

All those examples are covered quite clearly by the salary cap rules. All such payments count towards a player's salary cap value. I suggest you go read them - download the RFL Rules from their website.

If you want to avoid the cap, as an example go find a friendly "unconnected third party" prepared to pay the player loads of money offshore for his image rights or for other services rendered.

But the payments to the players wife isn't counted as the players salary it is the wifes salary for working for the club.