The guy has to be dropped now. Too slow, creates nothing and even his kicking game is poor now.

Mcnamara stated at the beginning of the seaon that players would be picked on merit so stand by your words and drop Deacon!

Why not try Jeffries and Menzies at half back we cant get any worse.

As has been discussed elsewhere if you drop Deacon and play Menzies and Jeffries who acts as playmaker?

Both Menzies and Jeffries are runners. Menzies played outside a kingpin organiser in Matt Orford at Manly.

What we need is Deacon to find some form or to bring in a new player if/when somebody decent becomes available.

As has been said by myself and FA we missed the boat in not getting Thorman in the close season.

Play maker? something Deacon certainly aint. Jeffries is a runner but he does try to create and Menzies has got good hands so i think its worth a try.

He's not a playmaker now. He should be but he's not

Things must be bad Sam if you think Thorman's the answer.

You not seen us play then?

He was instrumental for Hull on Sunday and played our halfbacks off the park.

His game seems to have raised since he returned to his original club.

Thorman is one in a considerable line of players who seem to attract polarised opinions, but I've always rated him extremely highly as a player, and he definitely has been rejuvenated and re-enthused by his move to Hull - any fool can surely see that. He played out of his skin on Sunday and his skills were a treat to watch, even as a fan of the losing team.

His style would indeed have fitted in perfectly with the pre-2009 model Deacon and the Bulls' style. Over the years we have benefited greatly with that type of No. 6, from Nigel Stephenson to John Woods.

You might just be poking fun, but as a comment, it makes no sense at all.

I'd drop Jefferies before Deacon. Another major disappointment this year.

From what I've seen & heard Jeffries has been Bradford's best back (with Nero) this season. He stuffs Deacon on Try assists, Meters gained 272 (nearly 200 more), Carries, Offloads & Tackle Busts. Though I suppose if you expect that standard from Deacon you are not going to be disappointed.

Jeffries usually manages 2 or 3 breaks every match which might make his stats look good. But he does very little to bring other players into the game or to contribute to the overall team performance. He never seems to take on responsibility for directing the Bulls on attack. Deacon isnt doing that job at all well at the moment but at least he's tryiing to shoulder some responsibility. Jeffries just plays his own game, almost detached from the rest of the team.

What is the evidence for that?

it's great that he's making the breaks but what comes of it if no-one backs up?

Who should be shouldering the responsibility for backing him up? IMO platt should be clever enough to know where to run to potentially collect an offload.

Not a chance has been our best back.

He has been very poor. Consistant though, consistantly poor.

TBF if he'd ran on from the bench to do that, we'd have been penalised for having 14 men on the field, wouldn't we?

Should have been 'dropped' five years ago, I would rather have kept Robbie to be honest. I was hoping beyond hope Noble would take him to Wigan but never happened.

How do you mean his kicking game is poor NOW?? He has been kicking down opposition full backs throats for about four seasons. If there were only one opposition player in their half of the field, and oceans of open space to find, Deacon would find the man EVERY TIME.

Useless.

This explains why we've been well up near the top of the tree for all those years, then, and Deacon at or near the top of every kick stats list there is. But I'm sure the league tables and the records are all wrong, and you are right.

Deacon was awful on sunday, Jeffries wasn't bad. I'd seriously consider dropping him for the time being.

I don't pay any attention to stats.

Nor anything else, unless it contains alcohol, and comes in a glass vessel.

Well if the season finishes on points difference, how are you going to know who's top?

You'd never know anyway, seeing as 87.35% of all statistics are wrong.

Anybody can have a bad game Tigs

What about all the games he has won for us ??

(Hope you did not find my response insulting, offensive or in bad taste - I have to be very careful

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