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| So with Orford signed, and Deac on his way to wigan.
Who is going to take over kicking duties? IIRC Sykes still holds SL record for successful conversions in 1 game but has looked pretty rusty when he was filling in for Deac's last season. So do any of the new guys have a decent boot on them ? or are we gonna have to get used to an average kicker?
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| Quote MQBlank="MQBlank"So with Orford signed, and Deac on his way to wigan.
Who is going to take over kicking duties? IIRC Sykes still holds SL record for successful conversions in 1 game but has looked pretty rusty when he was filling in for Deac's last season. So do any of the new guys have a decent boot on them ? or are we gonna have to get used to an average kicker?'"
Saints hav'nt done too badly with an average kicker 
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| sykes looked rusted precisely because he wasnt regular kicker and hadnt been for a few years. I'd be surprised if he didnt improve a fair bit once doing the job every week. and even rusty he made better yards on penalty kicks than deacs.
plus orfords a kicker too so he might take over
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| Orfords been the main kicker for Manly for the last 2 seasons.
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"Orfords been the main kicker for Manly for the last 2 seasons.'"
how good a kicker is he though? 242 over 98 games is only an average of 2 1/2 per game although if he wasnt kicker for first year of that and missed a few games last year it starts to look a bit better. can't say Ive ever taken much notice of his goal kicking. Slightly worying thing for me is if sykes does become the kicker it guarantees him a starting spot which isnt ideal.
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| Quote mat="mat"how good a kicker is he though? 242 over 98 games is only an average of 2 1/2 per game although if he wasnt kicker for first year of that and missed a few games last year it starts to look a bit better. can't say Ive ever taken much notice of his goal kicking. Slightly worying thing for me is if sykes does become the kicker it guarantees him a starting Centre spot which isnt ideal.'"
Orford's career goalkicking percentage is [url=http://stats.rleague.com/rl/scorers/players/Matt_Orford.html71.96[/url. Significantly worse than Deacon's, but comparable, I would guess, to Sykes'.
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| Orford's goal kicking doesn't look too reliable so I expect he'll share it with Sykes.
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| I don't expect Sykes to be in the team every week, it will be on form with Platt. So I imagine Orford will take over mainly, with Sykes doing a little bit ?
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| Orford was the main kicker but shared the duties with Lyon. In 2009 his kicking accuracy was 76% (57/75).
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| Quote Nev0807="Nev0807"Orford was the main kicker but shared the duties with Lyon. In 2009 his kicking accuracy was 76% (57/75).'"
We just need ex ex Manly boys to convince him to come to the Bulls in 2011 now!!
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| Watmough, Kite & Foran for 2011 please 
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| Can any of the new lads kick goals, or will it be Sykes kicking? Hope not as we need a better a better one than Paul.
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| Orford can kick.
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| Quote mumbyisgod="mumbyisgod"Can any of the new lads kick goals, or will it be Sykes kicking? Hope not as we need a better a better one than Paul.'"
orford was a kicker for manly but he only averaged about 70% compared to deacs 79-80%, dont know sykes % offhand
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| He sounds like a decent goal-kicker but we have Sykes too.
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| From here on in we are dealing in try scoring only, kicking will become irrelevant 
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| Quote MDF="MDF"[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?t=436935[/url'"
 Whoops missed that one
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| Quote New_Farnley_Bull="New_Farnley_Bull"From here on in we are dealing in try scoring only, kicking will become irrelevant
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This is a Bradford board, just moderate that positive stuff 
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| In 229 NRL games Matt Orford has scored 1,502 points.
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| Quote New_Farnley_Bull="New_Farnley_Bull"From here on in we are dealing in try scoring only, kicking will become irrelevant
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| What?

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| orford for mine, don't think sykes will be a regular starter. Read on a manly board that orford was a pretty good goal kicker. 
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| Pretty difficult to compare any future kicker to Deacon's stats and unrealistic to do so. 80% !!!!
Miight have to settle for a lesser expectation of 70%+
Yup I'd take that whether it be Orford or Sykes
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| Hmmmm a 10% drop in kick conversion success as compared to what % increase can we expect to see in the tries scored ratio to now we have a scrum half 
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